View Poll Results: Should Corproations have "personhood" rights?

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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Not with flippers, but I"ll bet you could teach one to use a pen with his teeth. Dolphins are smart.
    Then the paper would get all wet and smear the ink.

    See? They can't sign a contract.

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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    I've already clearly established that the preamble has no legal force, nor does it say the Constitution was written "for" people, only "by the people."
    It actually states, "We the people", and that means that it was written by the people for the people.
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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    What is the purpose of the Constitution? To protect the rights of the people from abridgment by the government.
    Yeah.

    Guess what we've been saying?

    That the First Amendment protects the freedom of the people to speak and publish their thoughts, and corporations are owned by people, the participation of corporation in the national dialogue can not be limited by the government, since to so limit them would be to limit the people that own them.

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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Hmmm......

    ....so many possibilities....


    hhhhmmmmmm.....

    Just because two of us can read the Constitution and you can't isn't a good reason for you to get snippy, is it?
    it seems like it is two vs. two... and to make an appeal to popularity? Please, don't be so silly...
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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    The people don't lose their freedoms just because they own stock in a company.
    That's right, but the company or corporation has no rights to begin with, it is the people within that corporation that have the rights...
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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You want to play dueling resumes?
    Many people in specific fields simply suck at what they do... just a fact.
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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Last time I checked, corporations are not owned by dolphins, since they can't sign contracts.

    So clearly it's for people.

    It's very clear, to any honest person reading it.
    If it says, states or alludes NOTHING about corporations or companys, how exactly do you arrive that it is "very clear" that it does then?
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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    It actually states, "We the people", and that means that it was written by the people for the people.
    No, it means it was written by the people. It says nothing about for the people.

    The Constitution is about alot of things. Protecting the rights of the people is one of them, but not the only thing.

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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Many people in specific fields simply suck at what they do... just a fact.
    Yes, that's true.

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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Let's look at the actual case a little closer.

    Citizens United is a political group - a group of people who got together to act because they believe in a political cause.

    Nobody here would deny that a group of people don't have rights, being people.

    Now, that group of people decided to form a corporation to make it easier for them to act in concert. Suddenly they lose their rights because of that? Why?

    Other groups - legal entities, not just multitudes of people united - clearly have rights. Political parties, for instance. Or is someone here going to say that political parties have no right to freedom of speech too?

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