View Poll Results: Should Corproations have "personhood" rights?

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  • Yes, corporations are just like a person

    18 18.18%
  • No, corporations are not just like a person

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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Are you saying TV and internet broadcasters have no rights too?

    They should be held accountable for their actions yes. To spread lies such as Fox or Rush does should carry responsibility. FREEDOM of Press doesn't mean one can lie and get away with slander.


    I think the founding fathers were smart enough to know that technology would change and we wouldn't be so literal and inflexible that we'd go to such ridiculous extremes. By your logic, only old-fashioned printing presses are protected, and newspapers that use computers and laser printers have no right to a "free press."
    I never said the ForeFathers were dumb. As far as them knowing we would progress. You do realize most of our Advances have come in the last 100 yrs. Meaning life in 1800 wasn't much different then life in 1700. I never mentioned computers and such as not being allowed as press. Please don't play the role of Anal.

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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Just jumping into this thread here after I noticed something that raised a couple questions in my mind.... I noticed that the votes are 16-0 against corporate personhood (at the time).

    Let's assume this is representative of the perspectives of people around the world... not necessarily unanimously against, but the vast majority.

    - Why would the supreme court go on and STRENGTHEN corporate personhood, when people are typically against it?
    - How is it that a majority of supreme court justices would hold opposing viewpoints with the majority of people?
    - What would it take to overturn a ruling coming out of the supreme court, if the people are against it?

    I could go on, but don't want to get into the other tangents...

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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Two people are more likely to agree on something in an exact manner than 1000's or millions.
    It's none of your business if they agree, or how much they agree. Freedom of speech is not conditioned on how much people agree on something. If I don't agree with a group that speaks on my behalf, I can quit.

    It is my place if it positively hurts me.
    No it's not. Rights are not conditioned on whether you are hurt either.

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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by pugetsoundwa View Post
    I never mentioned computers and such as not being allowed as press.
    Then what's your point?

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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    It's none of your business if they agree, or how much they agree. Freedom of speech is not conditioned on how much people agree on something. If I don't agree with a group that speaks on my behalf, I can quit.
    So it is perfectly O.K. for corporation X (whose stockholders live primarily in China or India) to spend a guzillion dollars to elect candidate Jo Schmo, the candidate that the C.E.O. views as most likely to lessen the regulatory burden on toxins in their products- sold mostly in the U.S. ?

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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    So it is perfectly O.K. for corporation X (whose stockholders live primarily in China or India) to spend a guzillion dollars to elect candidate Jo Schmo, the candidate that the C.E.O. views as most likely to lessen the regulatory burden on toxins in their products- sold mostly in the U.S. ?
    Yes. If the voters choose that candidate, it's their choice.

    Imagine you are considering who to vote for, and a TV ad appears, and I quickly turn of the TV and say "sorry, you can't see that, it's from a corporation so it will corrupt your thinking, and you can't be trusted to handle it." What would you say?
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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    So it is perfectly O.K. for corporation X (whose stockholders live primarily in China or India) to spend a guzillion dollars to elect candidate Jo Schmo, the candidate that the C.E.O. views as most likely to lessen the regulatory burden on toxins in their products- sold mostly in the U.S. ?
    Corporations aren't voting, from what I can tell. They can just donate. Last I checked, donations don't equal votes.
    "Loyalty only matters when there's a hundred reasons not to be-" Gen. Mattis

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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Corporations aren't voting, from what I can tell. They can just donate. Last I checked, donations don't equal votes.
    Quite true. And this isn't even about donations, which are still limited, it's about corporations simply expressing their opinions about candidates directly.

    If we think can't trust voters to hear free speech, we are a failure as a democracy already.

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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    No they are not a person. Yet they still should enjoy freedom of expression, I dont see why a small business has a right to put a Pro candidate sign in their window but Walmart cant run pro candidate advertisements.
    Really, you don't see a difference??

    Here's an easy one, people walking by as opposed to millions watching TV.

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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by pugetsoundwa View Post
    You are the second Corp owner I know that believes that. My fellow reservist has a small business is stanchly against any business having the same rights as a business. He thought that many many many years ago a business license had to be re-applied for every few years and that if the business couldn't prove they provided a needed good or service they were denied a re-issue of their license. He is of the belief his business excists to provide for him and his wife/children and if his children want to take over some day great, if not thats fine too. the idea that a business can excist for 120 yrs is wrong to him.
    Make me small business owner number three.

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