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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    In the context we are speaking; A gathering of PEOPLE for a specific purpose. Going to work does not qualify as "assembling".
    A gathering of people to form a corporation isn't a gathering of PEOPLE for a specific purpose? Your argument is dying and it's dying fast.

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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Because with the fund, you still have all the same Bill of Rights issues.
    Only for people who can't read the constitution... like the 5 republican judges on the SCOTUS.

    Suppose they did. THEN what are you going to blame the problems on?

    (Not to mention that pretty much whenever someone says something about "giving power to the people," they have a pretty solidified idea of what "the people" will do . . . and when "the people" inevitably don't do that . . . )
    Is that supposed to be some kind of intelligent argument or are you simply exercising your right?

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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    A gathering of people to form a corporation isn't a gathering of PEOPLE for a specific purpose? Your argument is dying and it's dying fast.
    Perhaps he is trying to say that not every person working for a corporation is in agreement with said corporation’s political positions? Or rather, the positions of those who decide what the corporation's political positions are?

    Well, that would be an obvious truth. But what is stopping any given employee of a corporation from supporting a candidate which appeals to them?
    Education.

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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    1) His post was tangentially relevant.
    2) You responded to his opinion with an opinion of your own.
    1) it was an analogy and a poor one as I noted.
    2) It's not opinion it's FACT. When a sperm fuses with an egg it creates a zygote. A zygote is a single-cell that contains two copies of chromosomes—one copy from each parent. In the week following fertilization, the zygote undergoes rapid cell division and becomes a mass of cells known as a blastocyst. After more cell division, the blastocyst splits in half.

    Now you are aware of the fact.

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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post


    No you're wrong!
    A) I guess you are right.
    B) I guess you are right.

    But only if your position is that since corporations are not people then they cannot break a law or kill someone, only the people who work there can do that. If that is your position then I will agree.

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    Re: Should Corporations Have Personhood?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Even if that actually made sense, which it does not . . . you just pulled it out of thin air.
    Then dispute it instead of just barking.

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    Re: Should Corporations Have Personhood?

    Quote Originally Posted by nerv14 View Post
    organizations, such as corporations, have freedom of speech as much as an individual because organizations are comprised of individuals.
    No they don't have that right because a corporation is not a person itself and those people who work there already have their right protected.

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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Even if one accepted the ludicrous idea that the First Amendment doesn't apply to corporations because it doesn't mention them, I direct your attention to the Ninth Amendment.
    Even if one accepted the ludicrous idea that the First Amendment does apply to corporations even though it doesn't mention them...

    "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
    You have a hard time understanding the difference between "people" and "corporations".

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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    I forgot who it was, but one of the founding fathers argued against a bill of rights because it would be used to say that because a certain right isn't listed in the bill of rights that it would be used to deny rights.

    So this argument is nonsense, especially when you consider the 9th amendment.

    "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. "
    You ought not use someones argument so quickly. The 9th amendment only lends credence to my position.

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    Re: Corporate Personhood

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    You're just making things up to try to get past a glaring inconsistency in your views.

    "The press" is an action, like speech. It's not a group.
    There is no inconsistency with my view. I didn't say the NYT was a group. "The Press" (in 1776) was the vehicle (print media) responsible for gathering and publishing news.

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