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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    As far as I can tell from the various definitions:

    Human Zygote = Human Organism.

    I don't see room for debate there.

    However, it would also seem that:

    Any cell or grouping of cells making up a part of the human body = Human Organism.

    So I'm not sure what the point you are trying to make is.
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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    Sure it is, just like any single-celled lifeform. Organisms, by definition, are "a form of life considered as an entity; an animal, plant, fungus, protistan, or moneran."

    Do you expect that to somehow confer something special to a zygote?
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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    I found it odd that so many 'choicers' resist the notion that a human zygote is a "human organism;' even as Planned Parenthood acknowledges in their materials that they are.
    You can call it anything you want, except protected human life.

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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    You can call it anything you want, except protected human life.
    It is human life, but what do you mean by protected?

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    Post Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    As far as I can tell from the various definitions:

    Human Zygote = Human Organism.

    I don't see room for debate there.

    However, it would also seem that:

    Any cell or grouping of cells making up a part of the human body = Human Organism.

    So I'm not sure what the point you are trying to make is.
    One of the points that I have been trying to make is actually being made for me,... I was hoping to show how steeped in denial 'pro-choicers' are. And how far they are willing to go to maintain that denial.

    This thread has been very useful for me and for my research.

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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    It is human life, but what do you mean by protected?
    Protected = constitutional rights.

    In Roe v Wade, the Court said a fetus has no rights until it's viable.

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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Protected = constitutional rights.

    In Roe v Wade, the Court said a fetus has no rights until it's viable.
    So why does it have no rights? Meaning, what makes it distinct from the baby that comes out 9 months later? What events gives us our rights?

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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    So why does it have no rights? Meaning, what makes it distinct from the baby that comes out 9 months later? What events gives us our rights?
    The ability to live outside the womb.

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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    One of the points that I have been trying to make is actually being made for me,... I was hoping to show how steeped in denial 'pro-choicers' are. And how far they are willing to go to maintain that denial.

    This thread has been very useful for me and for my research.
    Ok.

    So, basically, what you are saying is that certain persons, who have been grouped and labeled "pro-choice" by you, are unwilling to accept the obviousity which is:

    If a zygote is an organism, then:

    A human zygote is a human organism.

    What I don’t get is why anyone would try to disagree with such an obvious conclusion.

    I mean, what effect on the whole “pro-life vs. pro-choice” debate does it have?

    A human heart, removed from the human body for transplantation, will live for a time, given the right conditions.

    Is that not also a “human organism”?

    But it would by no reasonable person be considered a “human being”, or be granted protection from murder/death.
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