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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    There's a disturbing lack of biological knowledge around here.

    If it's a cell then it's an organism. It has DNA/RNA, organelles, etc. So a cell is an organism. Hence a zygote is an organism. A zygote is a little different in that the DNA in it is not yet active, but it will be, so it's an organism.

    Is it a human? Well, if it's not, then what species is it?

    So yes, a zygote is a human organism. The real question is about when it gets dignity.
    Well, the problem with this poll is that both answers are correct, depending upon your definition of organism. But to say that every cell is an organism dilutes the meaning of the word. There certainly are single-celled organisms that are separate life forms capable of self-sustenance. But there are also organisms made up of multiple cells, each with different functions, that are incapable of individually sustained life. I think a fertilized egg cell is closer to the second example than the first.
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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
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    Can anyone tell me,... how someone managed to vote in the poll and not have their name disclosed alongside everyone elses?

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    Thumbs up Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Yes, it is. Not sure why it matters, though.
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    I really do.

    In fact, your ability to be frank and intellectually honest helps illustrate on of my reasons for taking this poll.

    Note the way some (who even voted in the affirmative) will twist and squirm, distort or dismiss the sources, what they say, what they mean,... etc.

    They can't bring themselves to be as open and honest as you are being,... because (I'm guessing) they suspect their answer may be used to undermine their basis for keeping abortion legal.

    You don't seem to worry about that and I think it's to your credit.

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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    "In biology, an organism is any living system (such as animal, plant, fungus, or micro-organism). In at least some form, all organisms are capable of response to stimuli, reproduction, growth and development, and maintenance of homeostasis as a stable whole. An organism may either be unicellular (single-celled) or be composed of, as in humans, many billions of cells grouped into specialized tissues and organs. ...

    Not an organism. It does not meet the basic criteria, and a human organism is composed of a tad more than one cell. I refer to wiki to keep it concise.
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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    "Is a zygote an organism"
    That's a silly question.

    Of course it is.

    An organism is just a term - it refers to cells that are capable of reproducing or a fully developed member of a species.

    It doesn't denote intelligence, rights, abilities or anything other than that.

    A nut, a sappling, an amoeba, a fruit, a vegetable, a leaf - all these are organisms on their own and part of a larger, more complex organism. The only thing I'm aware of that multiplies and spreads yet isn't classified as an organism is a virus.
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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    This gets to the root meaning of my other poll, Phatty.

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    I notice, you have yet to vote in that one.
    You know my views on abortion, but it's impossible to say what the founding fathers would have intended on abortion when they wrote that statement. There's no way that I can vote on it. However, if you had a poll asking if you were for or against abortion, I would easily vote nay.

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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    "In biology, an organism is any living system (such as animal, plant, fungus, or micro-organism). In at least some form, all organisms are capable of response to stimuli,
    Zygotes definitely do that.

    reproduction,
    Isn't cleavage technically reproduction?

    growth and development,
    Zygotes definitely grow and develop.

    and maintenance of homeostasis as a stable whole.
    It sure does this.

    Not an organism. It does not meet the basic criteria, and a human organism is composed of a tad more than one cell. I refer to wiki to keep it concise.
    It is an organism. You started from one cell. You are now composed of many cells. If you weren't an organism before, then you somehow violated some nasty biological rules. You can't go from non-life to life. Spoiled meat does not give birth to maggots.

    Where things get tricky is with multicellular organisms. You yourself are an organism. Is a skin cell an organism? Welllll, it's a part of the entire organism of the human. It is alive, though. No question about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    In the Polls Forum only, visitors (non-members) are allowed to vote. It assists in involving non-members and enticing them to join.
    I see,... so for a less skewed result,... would you agree it would be better to count the names of who voted for what and eliminate the votes which 'could' be someone voting twice (at least once with anonymity).

    Agree?

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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    I see,... so for a less skewed result,... would you agree it would be better to count the names of who voted for what and eliminate the votes which 'could' be someone voting twice (at least once with anonymity).

    Agree?
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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    It's a human organism. Just like my finger, my hair, my sperm, etc.

    Despite your semantic games, it is however, not a "Human" in terms of being a Homo Sapien.
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