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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What do you call eggs? Chickens? What about pinecones? Do you call them trees?


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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    As usual, an abortion debate that degenerates into a semantically argument. A zygote, biologically and genetically is human. It's DNA would be consistent with the DNA of one who is a member of the human species. It would not be a chimp. It would not be a chicken. It would not be a tree. It would be a human. Denying this is just semantical gymnastics that some pro-choicers do.

    Oh, and an egg is a state of development. Depending on what species that egg is of, it could be a state of development of a chicken.
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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I've made that pretty obvious. A zygote, regardless of what species it is, is COMPLETELY DEPENDENT on its host for survival. It can't reproduce, feed itself or perform any of the basic independent functions expected of independent organisms. To call a 'zygote' a 'human organism' is ridiculous.
    It can reproduce, how do you think it becomes a foetus? Through cell division, which is reproduction. And it does feed itself, from carbohydrates that originated as sperm. What I think you don't realise is that a zygote is not attached to the uterine wall, it is usually going surfing down the fallopian tubes, and thus is only dependant upon the mother for the right environment, nothing more.
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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    holy thread necro!!! looks like it's been noticed.

    anyways, have fun and what is this doing in the poll forum????

    op has been banned at some point if anyone didn't notice that

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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    It can reproduce, how do you think it becomes a foetus? Through cell division, which is reproduction. And it does feed itself, from carbohydrates that originated as sperm. What I think you don't realise is that a zygote is not attached to the uterine wall, it is usually going surfing down the fallopian tubes, and thus is only dependant upon the mother for the right environment, nothing more.
    We're talking about controlled reproduction?
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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's not what reproduction is are you kidding me?
    So then what is reproduction if it's not something reproducing?
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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    reproduction is.... the creation of a new organism, either from bacteria dividing, or animals mating and making babies, or even plants making seeds.

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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    So then what is reproduction if it's not something reproducing?
    A zygote is not creating a brand new organism by engaging in cell division. That's the reproduction we're talking about. Example, mama bear gets with papa bear and create baby bear. That's reproduction. Cells splitting up is NOT the reproduction we're talking about.
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    Re: Is a single celled human zygote an 'organism'?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    As usual, an abortion debate that degenerates into a semantically argument. A zygote, biologically and genetically is human. It's DNA would be consistent with the DNA of one who is a member of the human species. It would not be a chimp. It would not be a chicken. It would not be a tree. It would be a human. Denying this is just semantical gymnastics that some pro-choicers do.

    Oh, and an egg is a state of development. Depending on what species that egg is of, it could be a state of development of a chicken.
    Semantically speaking, Hatuey has it dead on correct.

    Of course, I agree with you that 'semantically speaking' does not make a decent argument, but from my experience it's not normally the pro-choicers who start semantic arguments in the first place - we just like to finish them. I'm incredibly guilty of that particular bad habit .

    EDIT: Oh, and that same bad habit is prompting me to point something out. It's not the species of the zygote which we're contesting, nor the fact that it is alive - we're contesting the claim that a zygote should be considered as a macroscopic life-form/'entity' in it's own right. It's the distinction between the zygote being part of the woman's body, or part of it's own body. And before you say it - yes, I would say that's a subjective distinction. Semantics normally is, in the end.
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