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    Re: Should School computers have firewalls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    LOLZ! Why not? Plenty of empty classrooms and broom closets around.
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    Re: Should School computers have firewalls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Do not forget the gym and under the bleachers
    Uhhh ... the gym is a bit open - I'm not an exhibitionist, but the main thing that stops sex at my school is that it is an all-boys boarding school. So, LOL, we can look at all the porn we can get hold of, but there is only one thing we can do about it.

    Oh and BTW, I've always wondered about this word - what are 'bleachers'? We don't have them where I come from.

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    Re: Should School computers have firewalls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    Oh and BTW, I've always wondered about this word - what are 'bleachers'? We don't have them where I come from.
    "Bleachers" are a free-standing structure with a metal frame on which are mounted (usually) wooden benches and walk-ways that rise in a tiered fashion and are occupied by spectators at a sports function. They are usually found outdoors, though indoors they can be mounted to the wall of a gymnasium and folded inward to be flush with the wall when not in use.

    They get their name from the fact that they used to be the "cheap seats," and spectators at summer events like baseball would sit in them without the benefit of a roof above and their hair would bleach from long hours in the sun.

    You probably have them but they're called something else.

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    Re: Should School computers have firewalls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Actually, the ones that want to work are hardly likely to notice the firewall.
    I wanted to work, I noticed it, bypassed it regularly [and have stories to tell] and still ended up with a 4.0 average exiting high school. Creating characters of what one person on one side of the fence, or what not is like trying to come up with a profile for airport security - you can come up with a stereotype, but not everybody matches it, and often end up overlooked.
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    Re: Should School computers have firewalls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Out of curiosity, what do you want your life to accomplish? This is not frivolous question, by the way. I begin to have a certain set of suspicions, that I'd like to consider, but with more information.
    I was under the impression an attempt at getting personal information from posters was against the rules. Am I wrong?

    However no inadequacies here if that is what you're getting at. How about yourself? Get a little testy at an innocuous jousting of your ego after you left yourself open with that statement? What do you do when someone seriously calls you out, go cry in the corner?

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    Re: Should School computers have firewalls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Iwa View Post
    I think the schools that use firewalls are to restrictive. i mean they even block images depending from the site. thats what i produce proxy sites for schools.
    Absolutely they should.

    While it's annoying at times (I work in a school) there are ways to get around the restricted access. Normally, if there is a site that would be useful to students and/or faculty, a request can be made to any technology department requesting that a particular site be allowed.

    Working in a grade school, I've seen some pretty questionable things pop up just from an innocent google search. When my children were in elementary school, I know I would not have appreciated them having access to whatever they wanted.

    Of course, I'm of the opinion that the parents could give certain permissions to their students and those permissions could be set by each individual password combination for each student. However, that's a nightmare to implement - so the restrictions that are set for each age level (elementary, middle, high school) should be age appropriate IMHO.
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    Re: Should School computers have firewalls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    If you're looking for something specific, it can be gotten for you.
    What do you mean?
    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Let the public school provide the basics, you as the parent can do the fine tuning.

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    Re: Should School computers have firewalls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    What do you mean?
    If you were looking for a specific YouTube video, which would be relevant to classwork, but you couldn't get it because it was blocked, you can request it and someone can get it.

    Learning how to research things on the Internet doesn't mean you have to have access to everything. It's the methodology you're learning, not the actual topic -- else you don't even really need the Internet at all. You can still learn all the methodology with limits to access.
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    Re: Should School computers have firewalls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    If you were looking for a specific YouTube video, which would be relevant to classwork, but you couldn't get it because it was blocked, you can request it and someone can get it.
    And of course I've tried that.
    Even teachers aren't allowed to access certain sites. This probably varies from district to district, but that's how it is at my school.

    But I found a way to get around it, was no problem in the end. I'm just saying that the firewalls do pose as an obstacle at times, and can make my job more difficult than it should be. It's not such a huge obstacle where it'll make me unable to teach the lesson, but it's an obstacle that keeps me from using the internet to it's full potential. That's what I'm trying saying.

    Learning how to research things on the Internet doesn't mean you have to have access to everything. It's the methodology you're learning, not the actual topic -- else you don't even really need the Internet at all. You can still learn all the methodology with limits to access.
    Yep, that's how it is at the computer lab at my school.
    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Let the public school provide the basics, you as the parent can do the fine tuning.

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    Re: Should School computers have firewalls?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    While it's annoying at times (I work in a school) there are ways to get around the restricted access. Normally, if there is a site that would be useful to students and/or faculty, a request can be made to any technology department requesting that a particular site be allowed.
    True, but that doesn't mean you're going to get access to that site. For instance in my earlier example about that YouTube video I wanted to show...Even as a teacher I was not able to get access to YouTube because even though I'm using it for academic reasons, my access to YouTube would also include access to the "inappropriate" materials as well. So my request was denied.

    Not a huge deal though.
    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Let the public school provide the basics, you as the parent can do the fine tuning.

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