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    Re: Should School computers have firewalls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Actually, the ones that want to work are hardly likely to notice the firewall.
    that depends on the firewall

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    Re: Should School computers have firewalls?

    Quote Originally Posted by hungry_hungry_hippo View Post
    Perhaps, but it certainly makes it a lot harder. I just don't think it's worth it to block facebook at the cost of half of potentially useful sites.
    I think someone mentioned this as well, but at my school there's a program that allows teachers to see every student's screen on their computer and I think this is much more useful.
    Blocking facebook and myspace is rather simple. A good admin can just block access to those sites. The problem is porn. In order to block porn sites, a lot of biology sites... and others go with them. A lot of admins use keyword blocking and this is where the problem lies.
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    Re: Should School computers have firewalls?

    Yep. Otherwise little Johnny comes home and tells mommy what he saw at school while playing on the net and Mommy decides to sue the school cause he was looking at boobs or something. lol
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    Re: Should School computers have firewalls?

    Quote Originally Posted by hungry_hungry_hippo View Post
    Agreed, but firewalls also block plenty of useful sites.
    "Useful" for what?

    Internet access can be managed to allow for sites which are pertinent to the lesson at hand. And if some are still blocked, well, a teacher can provide info. Or, they simply work with what they have.

    I can't think of any pedagogical situation where unfettered access to the Internet is needed.
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    Re: Should School computers have firewalls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Yep. Otherwise little Johnny comes home and tells mommy what he saw at school while playing on the net and Mommy decides to sue the school cause he was looking at boobs or something. lol
    It depends on how little Little Johnny is. If he is like 8, then the boobs he saw were meaningless, they were just body parts. If he is like 13 or 14, then he will have seen boobs on the 'net, or somewhere else, whether mummy likes it or not. Frankly, I think adults get too wound up about sex and children's interest in it. They will find out about sex when they reach an appropriate age, and they will do sex, whether their 'rents like it or not.

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    Re: Should School computers have firewalls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    It depends on how little Little Johnny is. If he is like 8, then the boobs he saw were meaningless, they were just body parts. If he is like 13 or 14, then he will have seen boobs on the 'net, or somewhere else, whether mummy likes it or not. Frankly, I think adults get too wound up about sex and children's interest in it. They will find out about sex when they reach an appropriate age, and they will do sex, whether their 'rents like it or not.
    Actually, research (via polls of teenagers) shows that parents have a lot of influence over their teens' behavior. And what you've said here isn't an argument against the schools' responsibility to act in accordance with parents' wishes, particularly since parents are required by law to send their kids to school. Schools are inherently conservative institutions for precisely this reason. IF PARENTS wish to give their kids unfettered access to the net, they may do so whatever the school's policy, but if parents wish to limit their kids' access, a school offering free access would undermine those parents.

    Just because people break rules doesn't mean there shouldn't be any.

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    Re: Should School computers have firewalls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    "Useful" for what?

    Internet access can be managed to allow for sites which are pertinent to the lesson at hand. And if some are still blocked, well, a teacher can provide info. Or, they simply work with what they have.

    I can't think of any pedagogical situation where unfettered access to the Internet is needed.
    There was one time where I very upset that I couldn't access a video on YouTube. It's pretty hard to find nowadays because it's so old. It was called "Duck and Cover", it's a 1950s educational video given to public schools about an atomic bomb drill. I tried to find other sources that may have had the video, but when I did, those would be blocked as well.

    I got around it by using a program where I can dowload YouTube videos turn them into a video file that I can play on Windows Media Player.

    I didn't have to use that video, but I really wanted to. It certainly helped me a lot to be able to show that video. I don't need unfettered access to the internet, but the firewall is certainly an obstacle at times. But overall, I still think it serves a good purpose.
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    Re: Should School computers have firewalls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    There was one time where I very upset that I couldn't access a video on YouTube. It's pretty hard to find nowadays because it's so old. It was called "Duck and Cover", it's a 1950s educational video given to public schools about an atomic bomb drill. I tried to find other sources that may have had the video, but when I did, those would be blocked as well.

    I got around it by using a program where I can dowload YouTube videos turn them into a video file that I can play on Windows Media Player.

    I didn't have to use that video, but I really wanted to. It certainly helped me a lot to be able to show that video. I don't need unfettered access to the internet, but the firewall is certainly an obstacle at times. But overall, I still think it serves a good purpose.
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    Re: Should School computers have firewalls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    Frankly, I think adults get too wound up about sex and children's interest in it. They will find out about sex when they reach an appropriate age, and they will do sex, whether their 'rents like it or not.
    Agree.. But.. They should not do it down to the school house
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    Re: Should School computers have firewalls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Agree.. But.. They should not do it down to the school house
    LOLZ! Why not? Plenty of empty classrooms and broom closets around.

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