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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Since it is a fundamental right protected by our Constitution, I see this as a good thing.
    To bear arms, or carry concealed in public?

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    To bear arms, or carry concealed in public?
    Both. The Second Amendment makes no distinction as to method of carry.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Ohio. You see them where you'd expect to, but in general, most public places do not have such signs.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Both. The Second Amendment makes no distinction as to method of carry.
    Makes no distinction about anything. Type of arm, who can carry or where one can be carried.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Both. The Second Amendment makes no distinction as to method of carry.
    It also makes no distinction as to the type of armourment.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    It also makes no distinction as to the type of armourment.
    Yes, that is correct.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    Makes no distinction about anything. Type of arm, who can carry or where one can be carried.
    Because we have the right to keep and bear arms. It's not supposed to make a distinction because it's supposed to be crystal clear. We have the right to keep and bear arms. We do not need permission from the government to bear arms.
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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Because we have the right to keep and bear arms. It's not supposed to make a distinction because it's supposed to be crystal clear. We have the right to keep and bear arms. We do not need permission from the government to bear arms.
    So anyone can carry any weapon, anyplace?
    I think the problem is that it is not crystal clear.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    It also makes no distinction as to the type of armourment.
    The term used is "arms". That term has been interpreted by the court to have a general definition; whatever upper limit that definition may have, it certainly includes any class of firearms you may care to name.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The term used is "arms". That term has been interpreted by the court to have a general definition; whatever upper limit that definition may have, it certainly includes any class of firearms you may care to name.
    In a dramatic moment on the last day of this term, the Supreme Court declared for the first time that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to self-defense and gun ownership.

    For most of the last century, the interpretation of the Second Amendment has been that the right to bear arms is a collective right, such as with military service; Thursday's ruling says gun ownership is also an individual right.

    The 5-4 ruling grows out of a Washington, D.C., case in which a security guard sued the district for prohibiting him from keeping his handgun at home. In the District of Columbia, it is a crime to carry an unregistered firearm, and the registration of handguns is prohibited. The rules are so strict, they essentially regulate handguns out of existence. The regulations were intended to curb gun violence in the capital city.

    The ruling struck down the ban on constitutional grounds, saying it flew in the face of the constitutional right to bear arms.

    An Individual Right

    The precise meaning of the Second Amendment — "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" — has long been a subject for debate. In a decision nearly 70 years ago, the justices suggested it was a collective right, not an individual right to bear arms. This is the first time the court has defined the amendment so definitively.

    The two sides in this case viewed the Founding Fathers' intentions very differently. The majority of the justices said the amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia and to use that firearm for lawful purposes, such as self-defense in the home. The dissenting justices said the amendment protects only the right to possess and carry a firearm in connection with militia service.

    "Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapons whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose," Justice Antonin Scalia wrote for the majority. But it did allow for individuals to have guns for lawful purposes, such as hunting and defending themselves, he said. The majority clearly saw the individual right to own a gun"
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