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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    The Bias is having to mention Scalia
    I mentioned Scalia to correct the poster I responded to.
    You're stepping in mid-conversation and not looking at the context in which the posts were made. Knock it off.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I mentioned Scalia to correct the poster I responded to.
    You're stepping in mid-conversation and not looking at the context in which the posts were made. Knock it off.
    So lets see. When the supreme court makes a decision there are explanations from both sides. If it is Scalia you say so. But if it is the liberal side it is the court?

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So lets see. When the supreme court makes a decision there are explanations from both sides. If it is Scalia you say so. But if it is the liberal side it is the court?
    I'm trying to understand the point you're making and it is eluding me.

    When the court makes a decision, there is usually a write-up. Typically one person from the majority writes the decision. It is usually reported something like this: "Scalia, writing for the majority, says..."

    Scalia wrote it, writing for the majority of the court that ruled in that manner.

    Sometimes one of the justices on the losing side writes a dissent. His name is usually on it, as in "Scalia, writing for the dissent, says..."

    I gather that you're arguing semantics because you think he's saying "the court" when it is one way, and "Scalia wrote..." when it is the other.

    Okay. What was the point to start with? Was there one? Did it have something to do with the original subject at all?

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You mentioned Scalia and the court.


    The court (not Scalia) said:
    You're thinking of someone else's posts. I haven't quoted Scalia or the court at all on this thread.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'm trying to understand the point you're making and it is eluding me.

    When the court makes a decision, there is usually a write-up. Typically one person from the majority writes the decision. It is usually reported something like this: "Scalia, writing for the majority, says..."

    Scalia wrote it, writing for the majority of the court that ruled in that manner.

    Sometimes one of the justices on the losing side writes a dissent. His name is usually on it, as in "Scalia, writing for the dissent, says..."

    I gather that you're arguing semantics because you think he's saying "the court" when it is one way, and "Scalia wrote..." when it is the other.

    Okay. What was the point to start with? Was there one? Did it have something to do with the original subject at all?
    You only point out Scalia like no others said anything about the decision

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So You are saying the presence of a gun caused people to be more likley involved in domestic disputes?
    No,
    I am saying that the presence of a firearm during the dispute greatly raised the chances of it going south.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    * A study claiming "guns are three times more likely to kill you than help you" is a total fraud. Even using the low figures from the Clinton Justice Department, firearms are used almost 50 times more often to save life than to take life.15 More importantly, however, the figure claiming one is three times more likely to be killed by one’s own gun is a total lie:

    * Researcher Don Kates reveals that all available data now indicates that the "home gun homicide victims [in the flawed study] were killed using guns not kept in the victim's home."16

    * In other words, the victims were NOT murdered with their own guns! They were killed "by intruders who brought their own guns to the victim's household."17
    Firstly, I'm not citing any single study. I'm citing the crime statistics from your FBI. The interpretation is mine.

    Secondly the focus of your post is based on a stranger/home invasion. The FBI identified this as one of the least likely scenarios (in the region of 23%)

    Thirdly I never said they were murdered by their own guns, I said they were murdered by their own friends. Friends who knew they were armed and it didn't make a blind bit of difference. Except maybe to make sure they were armed too.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    Firstly, I'm not citing any single study. I'm citing the crime statistics from your FBI. The interpretation is mine.

    Secondly the focus of your post is based on a stranger/home invasion. The FBI identified this as one of the least likely scenarios (in the region of 23%)

    Thirdly I never said they were murdered by their own guns, I said they were murdered by their own friends. Friends who knew they were armed and it didn't make a blind bit of difference. Except maybe to make sure they were armed too.




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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So what are you saying?
    He doesn't even realize it yet.

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