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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    Not true. Guns are inanimate objects. Guns don't kill people...... just like they don't save lives. Can't have it both ways.
    I didn't say guns save lives; I said guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens save lives. There is a difference.

    Criminals are typically armed. If the law-abiding citizen acting in defense of self or others is NOT armed, he is outgunned and at a severe disadvantage...and having been a cop, I assure you it is rare that we arrive in time to stop someone from getting hurt or killed by a criminal.
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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by windovervocalcords View Post
    What's he doing with it on a playground?

    Perhaps he is playing with his child. Perhaps he is aware that the world is a dangerous place, and that, regrettably, criminals sometimes operate in parks or near playgrounds. Maybe he knows that crime can and does occur at unexpected times in unexpected places, and not just when you're expecting it. Possibly he knows that if an armed criminal threatens him, his child, or an innocent person nearby, that he would be at a severe disadvantage in trying to stop the criminal if he is unarmed. Perhaps that is why he has a pistol concealed on his person.
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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Dear friend, you are mistaken: someone other than the police are packing guns: criminals.

    If a cop isn't around when you need one...
    Actually the only murders in my city were people related and aquaintences. They weren't criminals until they killed someone. There was one guy that did rob the bank, but he had a toy gun.
    I do support conceal carry laws with a permit. I just don't believe I would ever carry but I do have guns at home for defence.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    Actually the only murders in my city were people related and aquaintences. They weren't criminals until they killed someone. There was one guy that did rob the bank, but he had a toy gun.
    I do support conceal carry laws with a permit. I just don't believe I would ever carry.
    I am glad your community is so peaceful; it is a regrettable fact that many communities are not so safe.

    I fully support your right to not go armed if that is your choice.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    And a naked guy chasing after you could be more lethal too.
    Depends on how horny he is, and how big his "gun" is.
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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    there have been a few times in my life, that a gun helped deescalate a life threatening situation. and nobody was harmed.
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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I fully support your right to not go armed if that is your choice.
    It is my choice. I am not afraid to go anywhere without a gun.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    It is my choice. I am not afraid to go anywhere without a gun.
    That was my point. If you don't feel the need, well, good for you. I'm glad you live somewhere you believe to be so safe that you don't fear crime. It is indeed your choice... and those of us who feel otherwise should be allowed our choice. Most people don't live somewhere as safe as you profess your hometown to be.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    That was my point. If you don't feel the need, well, good for you. I'm glad you live somewhere you believe to be so safe that you don't fear crime. It is indeed your choice... and those of us who feel otherwise should be allowed our choice. Most people don't live somewhere as safe as you profess your hometown to be.
    We are in agreement. Like I said I agree with CCW, but I believe permits should be required.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    We are in agreement. Like I said I agree with CCW, but I believe permits should be required.

    Okay.

    Properly and ideally, I don't think permits to carry should be required under the original intent of the 2A.

    On the other hand, I have a permit, and it has its uses. When I buy a gun, instead of having to wait 15-30 minutes to clear the NICS, I just show my permit and I'm done. When a police officer pulls me over and asks if I have any weapons, I say "yes I do, and here's my carry permit", then he knows immediately that I have a clean criminal record and he can chill out a little. It's sort of like a "Yes, I am a Good Guy" card.

    While I think requiring carry permits is Constitutionally dubious, I can live with it, as long as they are "Shall Issue" and not discretionary-issue.
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