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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    I know. For one thing it's illegal and this is a law abiding town. We are not dumb enough to risk a weapons charge when crime in non-existant. We are a town of hunters and gun owners and the only people carrying here are the police.



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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Do you concede that these facts are true?
    Yep. I would bet the farm on it.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    Yep. I would bet the farm on it.
    So because a small farming community is like that the rest of the country is?

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    No concealed carry permit. I am a life member of the NRA, my Dad, who served 3 1/2 years in the Army infantry (2 years frontline combat in Pacific Theater, New Georgia, Bouganville, Phillipines) trained me, starting when I was 6. I have 5 pistols, 4 rifles.

    My favorite shooting is .223 varmint rifles at 200 yds. at the range. I handload my ammo, and it is tuned to my rifle and chamber, so it is MUCH more accurate than off the shelf ammo. I shoot a Savage varmint rifle with a 26" heavy barrel, off of a mechanical rest in front with bunny ear sandbag in the back.

    Range sessions are timed, 20 min. firing, 10 min. cease fire to check and post targets. A box of ammo is 50 rounds, so I try to fire 25 in 20 min., and clean my rifle in the next 20 min. session, so I spend about 2 hours on a range session to fire one box of 50.

    I shoot 5 rounds at each orange 1" dot on a target, so all are 5 shot groups.

    At 100 yds., these usually measure about .5", center to center (extreme spread minus the diameter of a bullet). Using center to center, you can compare group sizes of different diameter bullets, as like to like.

    At 200 yards, I want to be under 1.5", and I am usually close, except of very windy days. A .223 is a small bullet, and I have seen the wind push a bullet 6" left or right on a very windy day, at 200 yds. The same wind at 100 yds. would only push the same bullet 1.5", so the relationship of drift to wind speed at distance is not linear, rather its exponential.

    For off the shelf equipment, that's about as good as it gets. I have seen a few guys do better, but you have to put up wind flags and judge the change in wind speed on every shot and adjust your hold. I have tried, but I'm not too hot at it. Or, I get 4 out of 5 better, misjudge one shot, and the group is just as big as if I didn't try reading the wind; so I don't. Means I won't be a competitive shooter, I'll just have to be a serious hobbiest.

    I don't drive much after dark and not in bad areas, so I don't concealed carry. I have thought about it, and given my behavior, the odds of me needing it don't seem to justify the effort and expense. Passing the firing test would be easy for me, I'm already better than 90% of the pistol shooters at the range. I do keep a pistol in a combo locked pistol box, loaded magazine in the gun, no round chambered, so I'd have to cycle the slide to chamber a round.

    In Tx. since it became legal to get a concealed carry license, I have never heard of a permit holder going nuts and killing a family member or an innocent bystander. I have heard of many defending themselves, and some who killed people threatening them. All the cases I have heard of go to the grand jury and all have been 'no true billed'. As near as I can tell, concealed carry permit holders carrying loaded guns does not appear to create a new problem for society, I say based on 20 years of observation in Tx.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So because a small farming community is like that the rest of the country is?
    Not a farming community at all. Mostly service and manufacturing. So I guess it is like the rest of the country.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by finebead View Post
    In Tx. since it became legal to get a concealed carry license, I have never heard of a permit holder going nuts and killing a family member or an innocent bystander. I have heard of many defending themselves, and some who killed people threatening them. All the cases I have heard of go to the grand jury and all have been 'no true billed'. As near as I can tell, concealed carry permit holders carrying loaded guns does not appear to create a new problem for society, I say based on 20 years of observation in Tx.
    It did not create any problems when Minnesota passed CCW either. It was a non issue.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    In H-Town, probably 85% of the people I know pack heat at all times. so If I should need a fire arm, I can borrow one pretty quick.
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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    Not a farming community at all. Mostly service and manufacturing. So I guess it is like the rest of the country.
    So you are trying to compare a community of 20000 to city's and urban populations that number in the millions?

    That is just flies in the face of any kind of logic.
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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    So you are trying to compare a community of 20000 to city's and urban populations that number in the millions?

    That is just flies in the face of any kind of logic.
    I am not comparing it to anything. Not everyone lives in a big city. I wouldn't.

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