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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    We have open carry up here. They are non-stop going back and forth on concealed carry laws in Madison. But he have not yet arrived.

    I carry when I have to. I don't like to but it's just a matter of self-preservation. It's a job thing. I find mine to be cumbersome and heavy at the end of the day.

    If I'm not workin', I'm not packin'. (Usually. )
    Minnesota passed the conceal carry law a few years ago. Lots of people were excited at first but now most of those don't carry anymore. It's too big of a hassle and most don't fear for their lives going about their everyday activities.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    Then I guess a sharp stick could be just as lethal as a SAW, too. Right?
    You can kill someone with both, so yes.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You can kill someone with both, so yes.
    So what does that mean?
    You could probably kill a one or two people with the stick or a few dozen with the SAW? Which is more lethal? Both the same?

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    Then I guess a sharp stick could be just as lethal as a SAW, too. Right?
    Or how about a shovel or a rock? A fryin pan? Are you trying to say that anything that can kill is just as lethal as a SAW?
    I think you understand now.

    The next step is to realize that it is certain people that are dangerous, not actually objects. In general, laws should regulate the actions of people, not peoples' property.

    I believe a distinction should only be made between ordinary arms and say, ordnance, which could ACCIDENTLY lead to loss of life through massive explosions (ie. very difficult to store safely), and are specifically designed for INDISCRIMINATE killing, etc.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    So what does that mean?
    The meaning looks pretty plain to me -- not sure why you don't understand it.

    Now, were you going to cite the court where it said that it "believe that these weapons should be restricted", or not?
    Be sure to clarify what they mean by "these weapons" and "restricted".
    And then tell me how or why any of that is relevant when discussing firearms.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by other View Post
    I think you understand now.

    The next step is to realize that it is certain people that are dangerous, not actually objects. In general, laws should regulate the actions of people, not peoples' property.

    I believe a distinction should only be made between ordinary arms and say, ordnance, which could ACCIDENTLY lead to loss of life through massive explosions (ie. very difficult to store safely), and are specifically designed for INDISCRIMINATE killing, etc.
    So you believe a guy with a stick is just as lethal as a guy with a SAW?

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    So you believe a guy with a stick is just as lethal as a guy with a SAW?
    He CAN be. He COULD be.
    He COULD be MORE lethal.

    (Psst... its the person and his intentions, not the weapon)

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
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    Now, were you going to cite the court where it said that it "believe that these weapons should be restricted", or not?
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    "Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapons whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose," Justice Antonin Scalia wrote for the majority. But it did allow for individuals to have guns for lawful purposes, such as hunting and defending themselves, he said. The majority clearly saw the individual right to own a gun"

    I do believe that is what he is saying here.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    So you believe a guy with a stick is just as lethal as a guy with a SAW?
    He CAN be.

    Think: Bruce Lee w/ a stick vs. ordinary joe (no, make that Ghandi) w/ a SAW.... set 3' apart...now, GO!

    Joking aside. It is the "Guy" part of your question that makes a SAW or a stick lethal, not just the SAW or stick.
    Last edited by other; 01-22-10 at 03:46 PM.

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    Re: Do you have a conceal and carry license?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    "Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapons whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose," Justice Antonin Scalia wrote for the majority. But it did allow for individuals to have guns for lawful purposes, such as hunting and defending themselves, he said. The majority clearly saw the individual right to own a gun"

    I do believe that is what he is saying here.
    None of our rights are unlimited. All come with the one limitation that we cannot infringe upon the rights of others.
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