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    Is owning a pickup truck a sign of being a "man of the people"?

    Now, I'm bringing this up because of the big deal that has been apparently made about Senator Brown's truck. It's not about his politics, it's about the fact that this truck was made into a symbol of him being "folksy".

    I was a construction worker for 11 years and owned trucks and work vans which were used for their intended purpose.

    Now, my view is that when someone owns a pickup who doesn't use it for real work (i.e. not helping your friends move every now and then or driving to their "job", but as a tool utilized while pursuing a career in a field where they actually work for a living.) they are just using the truck as a fashion accessory to try and look "cool".

    A real truck is dented. It's got **** all over it... a bit of concrete hardened in the bed, dirt and stray nails rolling around int eh bed as well.

    It gets used as a truck, not as an oddly shaped car. It's got a bunch of empty coffee cups on the dashboard from the cold days when you take your coffee breaks inside of it to stay warm.

    To me, a truly "folksy" person doesn't use a truck as an accessory, because they've had to use it for it's intended purpose. Which is work.

    IMO, a pickup truck with 200,000 miles that isn't covered in ****, dented to hell and gone, but still plugging away doing it's intended job is a sign that the owner of said truck is the exact opposite of being "folksy". It's a sign of being a white collar person who thinks he or she will look really "cool" if they drive a truck. It's superficial.

    Now, there's nothing wrong with that. If people want to look cool, that's their business. But I can't ****ing stand the fact that this purely superficial attemtp to look cool is being portrayed as a sign that the superficial person trying to look cool is some sort of a "man of the people".

    Most of the people I know who use or have used trucks and vans for their intended purposes feel the same way.

    But my opinion on this is clearly biased by my own experiences. I want to know what people think of the general idea about people pretending to be blue-collar as a reflection on them as a man of the people, not about Senator Brown's politics.

    So what do you guys think? Is owning a pickup truck a sign of being a "man of the people"?
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    Re: Is owning a pickup truck a sign of being a "man of the people"?

    so a pickup truck is a ute, just had to check that out, different name here in Oz.

    but yeah, if your not using it for work, its a but if a waste of time having one, you could just get a station wagon if you need to carry stuff.

    just something interesting, google image "pickup truck", you get american GM's and stuff, google image "ute" you get the Australian Holden Commodore VE, which is much nicer looking, and also slightly different to the american one's.

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    Re: Is owning a pickup truck a sign of being a "man of the people"?

    My experience is that people have a truck for three reasons.

    1. As stated, for work. There are tons of trucks around here that are at least thirty years old or have all sorts of toolboxes all over them.
    2. As a fashion statement. I see a lot of trucks with modified engines that tend to make them less useful for work, such as lights in strange places or engine modifications that make them less reliable.
    3. Recreation. Going off-road (the local term is muddin') is a popular past-time around here.

    I rarely see trucks that are use for more than one of those purposes, except perhaps large tires which could serve both 2 and 3, but even in the deep south, those trucks tend to be rare.

    In terms of a truck making a person more authentic or manly, that's just silly romanticism.

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    Re: Is owning a pickup truck a sign of being a "man of the people"?

    Only in the minds of partisan hacks. Who the hell cares what vehicles politician's own?

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    Re: Is owning a pickup truck a sign of being a "man of the people"?

    How about all the soccer moms driving around in big SUV's who don't ever go off road? They probably don't know what 4WD is for. In reality a mini-van would suffice if they have a bunch of kids. But I've seen more than one family with only 1 child driving a huge SUV. So where's the outrage there? (not saying this is outrage per say)
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    I've heard there are companies who will spray mud on your vehicle to make it look like you actually use it!
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    Re: Is owning a pickup truck a sign of being a "man of the people"?

    Embrace the symbolism. Massachusetts is a primarily blue-collar Democrat state. Brown is a politician but tapped into that and convinced the state he was one of them, and not an elitist who will ignore the people's wishes. That politically played well in Mass. I think it's the same as tapping into something vacuous as "hope and change" and it worked.

    It's smart politics. It got him in the door. Coakley is an awkward fit and there was something about her, and I can't pin it down, that I just didn't care for. Believe me, if Obama needed to get votes he'd send out every grass roots activist in D-Kal baseball hats, overalls and dirty trucks if it meant getting votes.

    Let's see how much character and conviction he has when and if good 'ol Harry shoves 500 million in front of his fact and asks him to simply abstain his vote for healthcare, or change his vote. Then we'll see if the people's trust was well placed or not.
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    Re: Is owning a pickup truck a sign of being a "man of the people"?

    I own a truck and use it for real work. My hands are calloused and scratched and embedded at the creases with stains from tannins of one sort or another.

    I'm really an effete snob at heart, though.
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    Re: Is owning a pickup truck a sign of being a "man of the people"?

    Quote Originally Posted by static_engineer View Post
    How about all the soccer moms driving around in big SUV's who don't ever go off road? They probably don't know what 4WD is for. In reality a mini-van would suffice if they have a bunch of kids. But I've seen more than one family with only 1 child driving a huge SUV. So where's the outrage there? (not saying this is outrage per say)
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    I've heard there are companies who will spray mud on your vehicle to make it look like you actually use it!
    SUV's are nothing more than fancy mini-vans. Their nature is to be an accessory. That's understood by the fact that they offer no practical utility. Why would I be outraged over something being used for it's intended purpose?

    As far as the difference to what I'm saying is that SUV's are totally worthless to a working man unless you tear out the seats and put steel plates over the windows.

    I guess they might be useful for a person who tows a boat every now and then and is married to a soccer mom. Otehr than that, they are pretty worthless in my opinion.
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    Re: Is owning a pickup truck a sign of being a "man of the people"?

    I have a Suburban, a Dodge Van & a Honda accord, they all have their purpose....
    The wife has a Honda CRV, I find that it is a great all around vehicle...
    You have to wonder about those guys driving Prius or Subarus....

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    Re: Is owning a pickup truck a sign of being a "man of the people"?

    I guess if ya don't have a "Jeep" a pick ups OK.
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