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    Re: Is owning a pickup truck a sign of being a "man of the people"?

    I have owned 4x4 pick-ups for the last thirty five years. I do not use it in my work, but haul a lot of stuff with it, lumber, firewood, dirt, brush, rocks, concrete blocks, equipment etc. and I also use the 4 wheel drive quite often. I went 5 years without a truck and missed it so much that my next vehicle was another truck. It has nothing to do with trying to be cool. When I want to be cool I drive my Vette.
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    Re: Is owning a pickup truck a sign of being a "man of the people"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    I have owned 4x4 pick-ups for the last thirty five years. I do not use it in my work, but haul a lot of stuff with it, firewood, dirt, brush, rocks, concrete blocks, equipment etc. and I also use the 4 wheel drive quite often. I went 5 years without a truck and missed it so much that my next vehicle was another truck. It has nothing to do with trying to be cool. When I want to be cool I drive my Vette.
    Agreed, I'm white collar but have 3 acres to deal with. That's a lot of leaves, grass, dirt, etc. And I garden as well - so a truck is necessary. Since I'm out in the boonies, a 4x4 truck for the winter during bad weather etc is also a good thing to have. Being utilitarian and cool with a truck? I don't LOOK or SMELL cool after using it most times.
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    Re: Is owning a pickup truck a sign of being a "man of the people"?

    Do you tow stuff much? Just askin'... in my experience there's a gap between what a vehicle can theoretically tow, and what it can really tow without all kinds of bad things happening, like overheating the engine, breaking an axle, or being unable to reach 25mph going uphill.

    Also if what you're towing is a lot heavier than the vehicle pulling, you're not going to enjoy that drive much.
    I've towed with an Outback didn't have any problems. Granted, you need trailer braking and a clue about how to drive, but it was fairly smooth sailing. Still, I'm not sure it could handle that kind of load on a daily basis. My main gripe is that a ranger or frontier is more than enough to tow pretty much any boat, but they always have a fullsize pickup or SUV they "need" to tow their boat.

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    Re: Is owning a pickup truck a sign of being a "man of the people"?

    By the way, I used "play" to essentially fill in the gap of things that trucks are by far more useful for than cars are however are not related to a job of some sort or work...

    Driving off road, needing 4x4, towing, hauling larger items, moving things like wood or animals you wouldn't want to put in your car, etc.

    When it comes down to it at that point you generally have a choice between a truck or a SUV.

    If the truck suits your purposes better than the SUV and you're using it for those things above regularly...but don't happen to use it for "work"...I would still see that as using a truck for its purpose.

    Now, perhaps that's what Tuck meant by having it dirty or dinged up or whatever, but I don't believe one must be completely and utterly blue collar without a care in the world what your appearance and presentation looks like or one is incapable of having a truck and using it for its intended purpose.

    I don't see it black and white, and that there is a good bit of grey area there.

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    Re: Is owning a pickup truck a sign of being a "man of the people"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Now, I'm bringing this up because of the big deal that has been apparently made about Senator Brown's truck. It's not about his politics, it's about the fact that this truck was made into a symbol of him being "folksy".

    I was a construction worker for 11 years and owned trucks and work vans which were used for their intended purpose.

    Now, my view is that when someone owns a pickup who doesn't use it for real work (i.e. not helping your friends move every now and then or driving to their "job", but as a tool utilized while pursuing a career in a field where they actually work for a living.) they are just using the truck as a fashion accessory to try and look "cool".

    A real truck is dented. It's got **** all over it... a bit of concrete hardened in the bed, dirt and stray nails rolling around int eh bed as well.

    It gets used as a truck, not as an oddly shaped car. It's got a bunch of empty coffee cups on the dashboard from the cold days when you take your coffee breaks inside of it to stay warm.

    To me, a truly "folksy" person doesn't use a truck as an accessory, because they've had to use it for it's intended purpose. Which is work.

    IMO, a pickup truck with 200,000 miles that isn't covered in ****, dented to hell and gone, but still plugging away doing it's intended job is a sign that the owner of said truck is the exact opposite of being "folksy". It's a sign of being a white collar person who thinks he or she will look really "cool" if they drive a truck. It's superficial.

    Now, there's nothing wrong with that. If people want to look cool, that's their business. But I can't ****ing stand the fact that this purely superficial attemtp to look cool is being portrayed as a sign that the superficial person trying to look cool is some sort of a "man of the people".

    Most of the people I know who use or have used trucks and vans for their intended purposes feel the same way.

    But my opinion on this is clearly biased by my own experiences. I want to know what people think of the general idea about people pretending to be blue-collar as a reflection on them as a man of the people, not about Senator Brown's politics.

    So what do you guys think? Is owning a pickup truck a sign of being a "man of the people"?
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    Re: Is owning a pickup truck a sign of being a "man of the people"?

    No, unless I'm a man of the people - I owned a Dodge Ram for more than 7 years and it was the only vehicle I owned.

    How stupid to think that because a person owns a pickup that he's "folksy" or somehow a man of the people.... do people really have that kind of time on their hands that this sort of thing is important or significant to them?

    Really?
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    Re: Is owning a pickup truck a sign of being a "man of the people"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    No, unless I'm a man of the people - I owned a Dodge Ram for more than 7 years and it was the only vehicle I owned.

    How stupid to think that because a person owns a pickup that he's "folksy" or somehow a man of the people.... do people really have that kind of time on their hands that this sort of thing is important or significant to them?

    Really?
    The guy seems to be a pro-choice career politician. I am glad he won, but will withold judgement on him until I get to know more about him. Bush got a lot votes for being folksy too.

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    Re: Is owning a pickup truck a sign of being a "man of the people"?

    Using a truck in place of an automobile just to "make a statement" is a sign of stupidity.
    Thats my opinion..
    In truth, its a sign of rebellion, as well as a lack of intellect.
    Strange, but maybe we should start respecting these folks a bit more.

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    Re: Is owning a pickup truck a sign of being a "man of the people"?

    The liberal elite don't drive pickup trucks. "See, I am not an elitist."

    That's all.

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    Re: Is owning a pickup truck a sign of being a "man of the people"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Now, my view is that when someone owns a pickup who doesn't use it for real work (i.e. not helping your friends move every now and then or driving to their "job", but as a tool utilized while pursuing a career in a field where they actually work for a living.) they are just using the truck as a fashion accessory to try and look "cool".
    Well in my experience owning a truck guarantees that you will be helping friends move, pick up stuff they bought, etc, etc.

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