View Poll Results: What goverment service that benefits you would you give up?

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  • Military

    15 23.08%
  • Infrastructure, such as federal highways

    15 23.08%
  • Scientific Research or Agencies such as NOAA

    12 18.46%
  • Education

    32 49.23%
  • Homeland Security / Law Enforcement (FBI)

    23 35.38%
  • Court System

    8 12.31%
  • Federal Reserve

    27 41.54%
  • Regulatory Agencies such as the FDA or NIST

    29 44.62%
  • Cultural Grants

    45 69.23%
  • Earmarks for your state or county

    49 75.38%
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    Re: What would you be willing to give up to reduce the size of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    You left off the largest chunk of unconstitutional spending: social programs.
    I know, I honestly didn't think about them when writing the poll.

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    Re: What would you be willing to give up to reduce the size of government?

    What else would I be willing to give up for the sake of government reduction?

    I'll surrender my Congressman's salary and pension.

    I'll surrender my neighbor's welfare checks.

    I'll surrender my other neighbor's disability check.

    I can surrender all sorts of stuff like that.

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    Re: What would you be willing to give up to reduce the size of government?

    Military No and yes. A strong military makes others think twice about taking us on. And really a lot of military tech is interesting and it helps out socially as well.
    [bInfrastructure, such as federal highways[/b] We need a system like this to support our economy.
    Scientific Research or Agencies such as NOAA We need this because the government is suppose to research when private corporations do not have the money necessary.
    Education I think it is needed but over 800 billion dollars a year? Come on that is ridiculous and really kids are not learning because not enough are trying hard and teachers know this so they don't really care to teach. I support putting kids into a huge high school that will prepare them for university. Huge classrooms equals less money being spent on each student. There is no reason for a public high school to be spending over a 100 million dollars a year.
    [bHomeland Security / Law Enforcement (FBI) [/b] We need for organizations to stop criminals or at best to try and find them when crime happens.
    Court System Our courts are busy because there are too many laws that tell an individual what he or she can not do. I wouldn't be bothered by someone using the services of a prostitute or using drugs or "speeding" so long as they do not hurt anyone that is what matters the most.
    Federal Reserve[/b needed. When Andrew Jackson removed the central bank. What happened? The US entered a severe depression that lasted for 20 yrs.
    Regulatory Agencies such as the FDA or NIST Needed, but they shouldn't be so anal. Just enough to make sure that no individual is harmed.
    [bCultural Grants
    What would we be without our history?
    Earmarks for your state or county
    This is a big negative for me. There is no reason for one area that is hardly populated to get more money then an area with more people. I know it sounds bad because most of the states and counties depend on earmarks to pay the salary of their employees and to just survive but still it isn't necessary. Because those are the same people who are screaming for a small government with limited spending. And I agree with them they wouldn't though once they see how much they have to make due because we are not supporting them anymore.
    And I disagree with section 8. Too many people take advantage of the system and when you tell the Housing Authority they do not care. Why? Because if it weren't for sect 8 they wouldn't have a job. If you cared so much for these people then help them find jobs don't give them money for nothing unless they are mentally retarded or physically retarded so they couldn't work.

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    Re: What would you be willing to give up to reduce the size of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    It is not the job of the US, nor the burden of the US taxpayer, to provide security for the rest of the world on a 24/7 basis.

    There is no guarantee that "global savagery" (whatever that is) would follow.

    Where is your proof that if the US military abandons overseas bases the world will simply fall apart?
    I refer you to a perusal of the term "Dark Ages" to edify youself as to the likely result of the sudden diappearence of the world's domoinant military entity. (i.e. the Roman Empire)

    As to whether it is our "job" or not, this is utterly irrelevant. The need is compelling and we are the only force available to maintain even a thin veneer of global civilization.

    But other than that, your position is at least uninformed.
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    Re: What would you be willing to give up to reduce the size of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    So where in the constitution does it give our government the power to police the world? Oh.. that's right I almost forgot, it doesn't!

    I'm also assuming you wouldn't mind China coming to one of the 50 states and setting up a base... right?

    Globalist
    If China were powerful enough, then according to their own system they would have the right and the duty.

    If you'll give this concept a little clear thought a concept might dimly begin to manifest for you -- that someone is going to exert this kind of global force and that it might just be in your best interest, and the best interests of just about everyone else, if it were us and not them.

    I know that thinking about real world concerns is difficult, that is why I recommend that people who find it too onerous, such as Leftists, Progressives, Socialists and Gaisits leave this difficult task and the decisions which are attendant on it to more informed and mature souls.

    By the way, I think of myself as more of an Imperialist than a Globalist.
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    Re: What would you be willing to give up to reduce the size of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    I refer you to a perusal of the term "Dark Ages" to edify youself as to the likely result of the sudden diappearence of the world's domoinant military entity. (i.e. the Roman Empire)

    As to whether it is our "job" or not, this is utterly irrelevant. The need is compelling and we are the only force available to maintain even a thin veneer of global civilization.

    But other than that, your position is at least uninformed.
    The need to police the world is not compelling. The need is only in your mind. This speaks volumes about your insecurities and distrust of others. It says almost nothing about the rest of the world.

    The world will get along just find without the constant meddling of the USA. Only someone with a tremendous amount of insecurity, fear and distrust would believe otherwise.
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    Re: What would you be willing to give up to reduce the size of government?

    Along with the poll options I chose, I'd add:
    Federal entilement programs. All of them.

    Until entitlement spending is addressed, there can be no meaningful debt reduction.

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    Re: What would you be willing to give up to reduce the size of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I want honest answers here. What government service that gives you some sort of benefit or makes your life better would you give up in order to cut taxes or reduce the budget deficit?

    Honestly, I can't think of any other than maybe a smaller military and department of homeland security.

    Most people want to make government smaller, but only for those other guys.
    STOP TOLERATING/FUNDING ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
    Close the NEA.
    Close NPR.
    Close the EPA.
    Close the IRS.
    Eliminate funding for groups like ACORN.
    Eliminate the Dept. of Agriculture. (let the states take control)
    Eliminate the Dept. of Education. (let the states take control)
    Eliminate HUD; Housing and Urban Development
    Eliminate OSHA
    Phase out Social Security.
    Phase out Medicare and Medicaid.

    For a start...

    Spend more on the military, intel services and homeland security.

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    Re: What would you be willing to give up to reduce the size of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    I refer you to a perusal of the term "Dark Ages" to edify youself as to the likely result of the sudden diappearence of the world's domoinant military entity. (i.e. the Roman Empire)

    As to whether it is our "job" or not, this is utterly irrelevant. The need is compelling and we are the only force available to maintain even a thin veneer of global civilization.

    But other than that, your position is at least uninformed.
    So, preserving global civilization is the American Burden, much like what used to be called the "white man's burden" to preserve civilization.
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    Re: What would you be willing to give up to reduce the size of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So, preserving global civilization is the American Burden,
    I don't agree with Oftencold very much, but he's right in this case. Think about what the world would look like without the US military. Not a pretty picture.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not!
    much like what used to be called the "white man's burden" to preserve civilization.
    That phrase gets thrown around a lot, but many of those Asian/African colonies did at least as well under European rule as they're doing under self-rule.
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