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Thread: Should mandatory drug testing be required for government officials?

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    Re: Should mandatory drug testing be required for government officials?

    Quote Originally Posted by Io0011 View Post
    Like we did with the housing markets idea that everyone should be able to afford a house regardless of ability to pay? How about with the Government getting involved with the banks to make sure that there would be enough money to buy goods, like oil and gas.
    I think you lost me there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Io0011 View Post
    Over population and good intentions are two conditions that could wipe out every man woman and child on Earth. That is a big risk, understanding it and letting others see that risk may lead to solutions, instead of mistakes.
    I think such a catastrophic outlook is a bit of a stretch personally. At the individual level, if people are unable to feed and take care of themselves, that will do one of two things: it could make them re-assess their priorities and make a concerted effort to live a productive life, or it could lead to their personal demise. My personal belief is that humans have much more capability than they know, but many have forgotten what they can accomplish and what life requires.

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    Re: Should mandatory drug testing be required for government officials?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    My personal belief is that humans have much more capability than they know, but many have forgotten what they can accomplish and what life requires.
    The issue is people like you and me who have time to post on debate politics are fairly well off compared to others. We don't know what it is like living on the streets or what daily life is for them. Unless do live that life we never will. We do have good intentions though, we want to feel like we helped in some way and ask for a change effecting those who have no voice. We do this not knowing what that change we are asking for will really do.

    Unintended consequences.

    Comparing the idea of one person making a choice to be better, acting on that choice, then failing or succeeding based on merit and application is misleading. How is someone sold into prostitution going to better her life? Just to list one example. She can maybe try to talk to the police, but the trend of law enforcement is to punish the crime of sex trafficking in the United States. So her situation is not improved.

    Most of all this falls to a supply and demand issue. There are a lot of people, there are few jobs. People with no jobs have a lot of time on there hands and nothing to do. They don't have money so they live in groups. They interact with people and make babies. Babies grow up to be worse then the parent.

    Over population. No jobs.

    My other point was an idea that government should be smaller and not try to fix everything. When it does they need to fix their fixes like windows tries to fix its updates. The whole process is a mess and it ends up making more things to fix. Job security for those making the laws we all live buy I guess.

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    Re: Should mandatory drug testing be required for government officials?

    Quote Originally Posted by Io0011 View Post
    The issue is people like you and me who have time to post on debate politics are fairly well off compared to others. We don't know what it is like living on the streets or what daily life is for them. Unless do live that life we never will.
    I'm not well off, but I do live within my means. I post on this and other forums because I am interested in sharing ideas and getting feedback, positive or negative. Many who live in poorer circumstances have access to forums such as this one, but are not interested in discussing anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Io0011 View Post
    We do have good intentions though, we want to feel like we helped in some way and ask for a change effecting those who have no voice. We do this not knowing what that change we are asking for will really do.
    That's probably one of the differences between someone like you and someone like me. I don't believe I can help with good intentions. I don't try to help except in that I extend understanding, but I do not try to fix the problems that others have, because I believe they need to fix them themselves.

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    Unintended consequences.
    Yes, we must be aware of the unintended consequences of our actions.
    They are harmful.

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    My other point was an idea that government should be smaller and not try to fix everything.
    That's exactly what I think.

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    Re: Should mandatory drug testing be required for government officials?

    Drug test all those Republicans in congress who want to lock up first time Cannabis offenders and throw away the key. Don't be surprised if one of them has something in his/her system.

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