View Poll Results: Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on beliefs,race or ethnicity?

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  • Yes they should allow a potential juror to be excluded due to race

    2 8.70%
  • No a potential juror should not be excluded due to race

    15 65.22%
  • Yes they should allow a potential juror to be excluded due to ethnicity

    2 8.70%
  • No a potentiickeal juror should not be excluded due to ethnicity

    15 65.22%
  • Yes they should allow a potential juror to be excluded due to beliefs

    14 60.87%
  • No a potential juror should not be excluded due to beliefs

    6 26.09%
  • other

    4 17.39%
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    Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on beliefs,race or ethnicity?

    Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on their beliefs,race or ethnicity? The are poll options asking yes or no for each.


    Aafia Siddiqui demands no Jewish jurors at attempted murder trial - Times Online

    A Pakistani scientist who is the only woman accused of working with the al-Qaeda leadership has demanded that Jews should be excluded from the jury at her trial in New York.

    Aafia Siddiqui called for jurors to undergo genetic testing in an outburst in federal court in Manhattan yesterday.

    “If they have a Zionist or Israeli background . . . they are all mad at me,” Ms Siddiqui, an American-educated neuroscientist, said. “I have a feeling everyone here is them [sic] — subject to genetic testing. They should be excluded if you want to be fair,” she told the judge.
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    Re: Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on beliefs,race or ethnici

    Beliefs, yes to an extent. Race and ethnicity, no.

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    Re: Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on beliefs,race or ethnici

    Heck, while we're at it, why not genetically eliminate all New Yorkers? We'd probably be pretty pissed off at her, too.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on beliefs,race or ethnici

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Beliefs, yes to an extent. Race and ethnicity, no.
    Even if the defendant in question in a racial supremacist?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on beliefs,race or ethnici

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Even if the defendant in question in a racial supremacist?
    Yeah. You've got a right to a jury of your peers, not a right to a jury of who you think your peers are.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on beliefs,race or ethnici

    Also, to clarify my "other" response:

    There are some beliefs that you should be excluded from a jury pool for, but they are beliefs that would genuinely prevent you from reaching a fair verdict.

    For example, bigots and people who assume that if you've been arrested, you're guilty should definitely not be included in juries.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on beliefs,race or ethnici

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Even if the defendant in question in a racial supremacist?
    Yes. Because you're assuming that someone of a different race would automatically be biased against the defendant. That's not the case. Just because the defendant is biased against a juror doesn't mean it goes the other way around.

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    Re: Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on beliefs,race or ethnici

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Yes. Because you're assuming that someone of a different race would automatically be biased against the defendant. That's not the case. Just because the defendant is biased against a juror doesn't mean it goes the other way around.
    That's why Obama got 90% of the black vote.....

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    Re: Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on beliefs,race or ethnici

    It probably had soemthing to do with the fact that 90% of Blacks are Democrats.

    Younger Blacks Tell Democrats to Take Notice - NYTimes.com

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    Re: Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on beliefs,race or ethnici

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    That's why Obama got 90% of the black vote.....
    and white presidential candidates had historically received 100% of the white vote

    your turn to contribute something else that will be found meaningless
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