View Poll Results: Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on beliefs,race or ethnicity?

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  • Yes they should allow a potential juror to be excluded due to race

    2 8.70%
  • No a potential juror should not be excluded due to race

    15 65.22%
  • Yes they should allow a potential juror to be excluded due to ethnicity

    2 8.70%
  • No a potentiickeal juror should not be excluded due to ethnicity

    15 65.22%
  • Yes they should allow a potential juror to be excluded due to beliefs

    14 60.87%
  • No a potential juror should not be excluded due to beliefs

    6 26.09%
  • other

    4 17.39%
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    Re: Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on beliefs,race or ethnici

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The problem with your racism is that you do such a ****ty job at concealing it that it is an insult to the intelligence of most both white and black people with an IQ above 100.
    I'll work on it, there is always room for improvement.....

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    Re: Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on beliefs,race or ethnici

    Maybe I'm mistaken, but aren't potential jurors already questioned prior to selection, in order to rule out those who have a significant bias?

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    Re: Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on beliefs,race or ethnici

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Maybe I'm mistaken, but aren't potential jurors already questioned prior to selection, in order to rule out those who have a significant bias?
    I guess you've been avoiding jury duty, don't worry, I won't tell

    yea you go through a vetting process.
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    Re: Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on beliefs,race or ethnici

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post
    I guess you've been avoiding jury duty, don't worry, I won't tell

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    My own experience is that I've been served notice for jury duty three times. In each case, the case is plea-bargained, and I've wasted half a day for 7 dollars.

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    Re: Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on beliefs,race or ethnici

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    A Pakistani scientist who is the only woman accused of working with the al-Qaeda leadership has demanded that Jews should be excluded from the jury at her trial in New York.
    Oh, there's an easy solution for that.

    Put her sorry terrorist ass back into the military courts, where it belongs, and have her tried there, and if there's a Jewish judge on the tribunal, well, tough ****, she doesn't get to impose her bigotry on us.

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    Re: Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on beliefs,race or ethnici

    There was a classic study done about 50 or so years ago called "The American Voter" - to see how people vote.
    Turns out about 40% (I would need a political science guru on this forum to confirm; It may be ~22%) are 'group benefit voters' - meaning they vote according to the candidate that supports their group.

    Tocqueville said something along the lines of 'America is a nation of joiners'.

    From this, I would surmise that Americans have the very big tendency to be 'biased' towards their respective 'group'.

    By this logic, most of the people of the jury will unavoidably slant towards their group.

    Makes sense?
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    Re: Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on beliefs,race or ethnici

    Hmmm.....should an Evangelical Pro-life Christian be allowed to sit on the murder trial of a man accused of killing an abortionist?

    Sure, why not? The abortionist isn't on trial, someone accused of killing him is.

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    Should Calypso Louis Farakhan be allowed to be on a jury trying a jewish man accused of running over a black child in the ghetto?

    No, because he's a bigot.

    Should Calypso Louis Farakhan be allowed to sit on a jury trying a black man accused of shooting a white shop keeper?

    No, because he's a bigot.

    Bigots really aren't capable of honest and rational thought, and shouldn't be on juries. When discovered, they should be ejected from the pool, permanently.

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    Re: Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on beliefs,race or ethnici

    [quote=Partisan;1058491217]

    First, I'd say 100% is inaccurate....
    Secondly, Obama was the first viable black candidate ever put on the presidential ballot by a major party, so there really aren't any stats to compare it with..........
    Can you name any other black people put on the Democrat ticket for president?

    No?

    Then your use of the word "viable" is meaningless, since it implies other candidates were not viable, and in fact those candidates just don't exist. Chances are good in the last election that even that Clinton broad would have won against McCain, which is why the Democrats have been pushing a McCain candidacy for so long.

    Completely off topic, of course.

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    Re: Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on beliefs,race or ethnici

    A third, disinterested party should chose the jury, not the people in the court room.
    Everyone has beliefs and opinions; but they become a detrament when they "fall in love" with these.
    I am reminded of "Twelve Angry Men" with Henry Fonda and other very good actors, one or two of the jurors should never have made the cut..
    Without even the mercy of question, a man's religion, faith, creed, should not be a factor. And forget the "race" business, there is only the human race!
    His mental health should be a consideration, absolutely... I'd never make it.
    This area, jury selection, does need reform and change..
    Spelling errors ? yes.

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    Re: Should someone not be allowed to serve on a jury based on beliefs,race or ethnici

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Then your use of the word "viable" is meaningless, since it implies other candidates were not viable, and in fact those candidates just don't exist.
    Just a little semantics here:

    well instead of viable, insert healthy, it makes perfect sense. "Was the first 'healthy' candidate". Similar in structure to " was the first 'viable' candidate"

    Just because there was no one to compare him to, you could still call him a viable candidate. His status as a candidate is independent of those before him.

    But yea, that's just semantics, and off topic.
    Last edited by JoeMama; 01-18-10 at 11:40 PM. Reason: quote messup
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