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    Re: Should firearm use and safety be a required subject in school?

    I think it should be taught in schools, but as an elective course.

    I think parents who own firearms would be wise to make sure their children are proficient in firearms safety, whether they get that info through school or other avenues.
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    Re: Should firearm use and safety be a required subject in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I think it should be taught in schools, but as an elective course.

    I think parents who own firearms would be wise to make sure their children are proficient in firearms safety, whether they get that info through school or other avenues.
    I think parents that don't own firearms should make damn sure their child isn't ignorant about firearm safety, so they won't get themselves shot by someone playing with a loaded gun, like themselves.

    After all, we don't want ignorant kids, do we? Especially not dead ones.

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    Re: Should firearm use and safety be a required subject in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    I think parents that don't own firearms should make damn sure their child isn't ignorant about firearm safety, so they won't get themselves shot by someone playing with a loaded gun, like themselves.

    After all, we don't want ignorant kids, do we? Especially not dead ones.
    What's wrong with dead ignorant kids? I find the live ones much more terrifying.
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    Re: Should firearm use and safety be a required subject in school?

    No. If we allowed this then whats next? Interactive sex classes? Hand to Hand combat?

    The only things that should be taught in schools are science, history, math, reading.
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    Re: Should firearm use and safety be a required subject in school?

    It shouldn't be required like math. It should be optional like sex education.
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    Re: Should firearm use and safety be a required subject in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Basic firearms safety should be taight in every public school, at several different grade levels, to a degree approproate to the age of the students in question.

    Doing so will save lives.
    The NRA's "Eddie Eagle" gun safety program for young children has been very effective, where it has been implemented, in reducing firearm-related accidents. That would be a good example of a program suitable for elementary-school kids.

    "Back in the day" it was nothing for H.S. students to have a .22 rifle, deer rifle or shotgun in their vehicle, if they intended to go hunting or target shooting after school, and no issue was made of it. Guys a little older than me have told me of bringing their rifles INTO school and locking them in the gym equipment locker for the day, so they could go hunting after school. And yet there was no rash of gun accidents, and no Columbines. I think safety and basic marksmanship with .22 rifles at middle school level would be fine, high schoolers in JROTC could learn to shoot M4's.

    One of the big mistakes that people make, when they have guns and children in the same home, is trying to keep the kids away from the guns and ignorant of them. This makes them taboo, therefore facinating... and tempting, and ignorance + facination makes a bad combination. The thing to do is teach them, and start young.

    My son's education in firearms started at a very early age. He was scarcely 3 when I demonstrated what a shotgun would do to a 2liter jug of water. I explained to him that a gun had no brain, so whoever was holding it had better have their brain in gear. To satisfy his curiosity and remove the "taboo-facination" factor, I told him he could look at and handle any of my firearms he wanted, as long as it was under my supervision (after being fully unloaded). We went over the three basics of gun safety: all guns are treated as if loaded at all times; finger off the trigger; never point a gun at anyone you don't want to kill or anything you don't want to destroy.

    He started shooting .22 rifles and BBguns, under careful supervision, at age 4. I'd started at age 5, and wanted to give him a leg up on his old man.

    Once upon a time the ten commandments were taught in school regularly, along with ethics such as the Golden Rule. In those days school shootings were virtually non-existent, despite the ready availability of firearms. I raised my son accordingly, with a respect for human life. He went hunting with me and saw firsthand what happens when you shoot a live animal with a gun, and how it isn't like most video games and there is no "saved game". Ethics and morals, starting early.

    Now he is 14. He has handled and fired every weapon I have, and last year he earned my trust enough to be given the combination to my gun-safe. He has never had an accidental discharge or done anything stupid with a firearm, nor do I believe he will....because he's been taught right.

    In principle, I think something like James' idea would be a good thing. In practice, we have too many hoplophobes in this country now for it to be a mandatory program, it would have to be an elective.

    Teaching those classes would be a good part-time job for retired Marine Corps Gunnery Sergeants.
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    Re: Should firearm use and safety be a required subject in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    It should be optional like sex education.
    I'm not sure about everywhere, but sex ed isn't optional in my state. Although I'm inclined to think it should be an elective, myself.

    The same addendum for my firearms statemnt applies, though, except with this slight rewording:

    I think parents who own firearms genitals would be wise to make sure their children are proficient in firearms genitalia safety, whether they get that info through school or other avenues.
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    Re: Should firearm use and safety be a required subject in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    It shouldn't be required like math. It should be optional like sex education.
    Sex education is almost always required in public schools - and I say 'almost always' because I have to allow for the possibility that there is -one- where it is not.

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    Re: Should firearm use and safety be a required subject in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    People keep babbling that schools, not parents, absolutely MUST teach students about sex because, among other things, the deadly diseases the perverts have introduced into the species.

    Since guns are by their very design very deadly objects indeed, isn't it incumbent on a society with a Constitutional guarantee of uninfringed gun ownsership to ensure that all citizens are familiar with the rudiments of firearms, for their own safety?

    Or are you claiming that ignorance about the deadly nature of sex is evil, but ignorance about the deadly nature of guns is sublime?
    Well, ignorance is never sublime.
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    Re: Should firearm use and safety be a required subject in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    No. If we allowed this then whats next? Interactive sex classes? Hand to Hand combat?

    The only things that should be taught in schools are science, history, math, reading.

    What's wrong with teaching Hand to Hand in school? If the little suckers learned to defend themselves, the girls especially, they might be a little safer in a dangerous world.

    Boxing used to be part of many school curriculums. Curriculi?
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