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    Re: Should firearm use and safety be a required subject in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    If such a program were mandatory, I would agree with it being handled as such. I also agree that it is a good way to handle sex-ed.
    Who pays for it?

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    Re: Should firearm use and safety be a required subject in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If such a list for sex-ed were multi-inclusive, focusing on instructor qualification and content, then those who want a pro-choice angle might go to planned parenthood, while those who want a pro-life angle could go to a religious institution. As long as the same minimum content is covered by a qualified instructor, I see no problem with the context of the presentation being left to the parents.
    That's what I had in mind as well.
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    Re: Should firearm use and safety be a required subject in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Who pays for it?
    Absent education reform, the school would float the bill.

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    Re: Should firearm use and safety be a required subject in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Absent education reform, the school would float the bill.
    That would make sense, if the (presumeably publuc) school requires the student to go elsewhere for the credit.

    But, there's no real reason the school system itself cannot teach the subject.

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    Re: Should firearm use and safety be a required subject in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Who pays for it?
    Good question. If it was mandatory, I'd be inclined to think vouchers because the mandatory nature places an undue expense. If it was an elective the kids could receive school credit for, I'd make it the parents responsibility to pony up the dough.

    If it was an elective offered in the school, it's covered by the school obviously.
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    Re: Should firearm use and safety be a required subject in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    But, there's no real reason the school system itself cannot teach the subject.
    Firearms aren't typically allowed on school property except when carried by cops.

    Even at my tech school, the Law Enforcement student's do their firearms training off-campus.

    If nothing else, the program would include shooting, and no one is ever going to approve of that on campus.

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    Re: Should firearm use and safety be a required subject in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Firearms aren't typically allowed on school property except when carried by cops.
    You don't need a firearm in hand to teach age-appropriate basic firearm safety.
    Last edited by Goobieman; 01-18-10 at 04:09 PM.

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    Re: Should firearm use and safety be a required subject in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You don't need a firearm in hand to teach age-appropriate basic firearm safety.
    Well right now we're talking about high school level how-to, including handling, cleaning, loading, shooting, watching background, etc.

    Yeah you need a firearm on hand for that.

    As for K-8, I agree you wouldn't, but neither would you need a firearms instructor, either. K-8 firearms safety might be a chapter in a general health program. If Boby has a cut, don't touch it, go tell an adult. If you see a gun, don't touch it, go tell an adult.

    The focus at a young age is to keep kids from accidentally killing themselves, while the focus at the older age is to teach kids how to deliberately use a firearm.

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    Re: Should firearm use and safety be a required subject in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    How so? Wouldn't locked firearms be an important PART of firearm safety?
    No.

    A locked gun is an inaccessible gun.

    An inaccessible gun is a useless gun.

    And a useless gun doesn't enhance anyone's safety but the criminal invading your house.

    A gun lock should never be more than an option.

    Options.

    That's what freedom is about.

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    Re: Should firearm use and safety be a required subject in school?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No.

    A locked gun is an inaccessible gun.

    An inaccessible gun is a useless gun.

    And a useless gun doesn't enhance anyone's safety but the criminal invading your house.

    A gun lock should never be more than an option.

    Options.

    That's what freedom is about.
    Any firearm not in use should be secured: unloaded and under lock and key.

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