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    Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    I brought this up on another thread the other night. It just kind of rolled out in response to a "Gays getting married" thread.--but the more I think about,the more it seems like a legitimate question. I ask why would two people of the same sex, have to be homosexual to get married? --Because once married, they would then be able enjoy the benefits that go along with being married. Such as tax Breaks, special insurance rates, and so on. If Two Homo Men can get Married legally, then why couldn't two straight Men get married also? (Not that I would want to, but just sayin) Just seems to be more discrimination against Straight Guys to me. Male is Male, and Female is Female, regardless of sexual orientation.-So my question is, if made legal, should two people of the same sex be allowed to marry, whether they are Homosexuals or not? ---this could be interesting
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    I don't see why the government sponsors marriage anyways. If it is indeed a religious institution then the government should have no part in it. If it isn't a religious institution then anyone who wants the legal benefits of marriage should be able to do it without discrimination. Marriage benefits, whether gay or not, are discriminatory to single people.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    I don't see why the government sponsors marriage anyways. If it is indeed a religious institution then the government should have no part in it. If it isn't a religious institution then anyone who wants the legal benefits of marriage should be able to do it without discrimination. Marriage, whether gay or not, is discriminatory to single people.
    Sorry, still trying to figure out how to make this into a poll--I think I screwed up
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    I don't see why the government sponsors marriage anyways. If it is indeed a religious institution then the government should have no part in it. If it isn't a religious institution then anyone who wants the legal benefits of marriage should be able to do it without discrimination. Marriage benefits, whether gay or not, are discriminatory to single people.
    That's true, just like progressive tax rates are discriminatory against rich people. Marriage gets those benefits because it's a good thing for people to be paired up. It lowers poverty levels, for one thing.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    So maybe we should all just team up, and marry a good Friend, and get the benefits of being Married. wonder how much that would save a year??
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Rassales View Post
    That's true, just like progressive tax rates are discriminatory against rich people. Marriage gets those benefits because it's a good thing for people to be paired up. It lowers poverty levels, for one thing.
    I am all for a non-discriminatory flat tax.

    Marriage is meaningless, it is a technicality. Two people who are in a committed relationship and who choose to pool their money don't need to be legally married to raise good children or stay above the poverty level.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    I am all for a non-discriminatory flat tax.

    Marriage is meaningless, it is a technicality. Two people who are in a committed relationship and who choose to pool their money don't need to be legally married to raise good children or stay above the poverty level.
    But I do believe married people get a lot more financial breaks than single people. I'm not sure about it, as I worked for myself all the years I was married, so was always broke. hahah
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Are you really thinking this through?

    Let's consider the kind of choices that married people can make for one another. If you are in the hospital your partner usually gets to decide who does and does not get to see you. If one partner is in the hospital on life support then the other partner can decide to pull the plug. Once you are dead, then your partner has first say in where they bury you. If one partner trashes their credit, then both partner's suffer. If one partner falls in love with someone, then there are the costs of divorce. If one partner dies, then the other partner is usually first in line to inherit their estate. If there are kids in the picture from previous relationships/marriage, then even if the other partner is not biologically related to them, he/she can challenge for visitation/custody.

    You really think a lot of straight guys are going to trust other straight guys with those kind of decisions?

    There is a reason that countries that have legalized same sex marriage have not had straight guys lining up around the street to marry each other. It's not like the countries can effectively regulate it, but they don't really have to because despite the tax benefits, there are not many straight guys who would trust other straight guys with decisions that could profoundly affect their lives.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    I don't think government should be regulating marriage per se, but it is a complicated issue.

    I'm of the opinion that getting married is a legal issue. You have to have a marriage dissolved in the courts - you should have to have your marriage confirmed by the courts as well. There are factors such as child support, debt that the couple has together, real estate, liquid assets, retirement, savings, etc., etc., etc.....

    What is a marriage other than a contract between two people? Contracts are legal documents and should be treated as such.

    If a couple want to have their marriage confirmed by a church of their choice, then that decision would be left up to each individual church/religion.

    If we made getting married as difficult as getting divorced, I think there'd be a ton of people who might think of marriage in a different light.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    I've been married twice to women I didn't know all that well. but things happen. --Between the two of them, took me for everything I had, plus.---I would trust any number of my Male friends of more than 50 years with my life, and have. They have never let me down. I would trust them more than some woman I barely know, with regards to my well being. ---seems like a legitimate idea. Not for me, cause I got my thing going on just fine. But I can see single straight guys with no family, getting married, for the benefits that go along with it. Somebody to be on your side legally should you need them. Or if you end up in the hospital or what ever. They will only allow in family Members. Someone to legally represent your interests. Almost like an adopted Family member. --so what is the down side?? there always is one.---As far as Straight guys being trustworthy, I say hell ya. Because there is none of that romantic love to mess things up, as it ends up doing in most relationships. . Just the love of the brotherhood of Men. No warm showers, or matching bath robes. Just guys teaming up to take on the world with a team mate, not a lover. Like tennis Doubles kinda.
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