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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Half.com / Books / Sociology Now

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    You could Google "cultural universal".
    First off, there is a huge difference between raising children and socializing children. Only parents and guardians raise children, but everyone in a community plays a part in socializing children.

    The purpose of all society, not just marriage, is to socialize children. If society didn't socialize children, then there would be no society. Marriage has long served as an institution for which children aspire. That is one major way in which marriage socializes children. But that is an extraordinary argument for same sex marriage. Believe it or not, there are gay children, and they want to aspire to an institution. Aspiring to second class civil unions and domestic partnerships is not the same for them as aspiring to same sex marriage. Seeing same sex couples in a committed, marital relationships would do much to socialize gay kids away from promiscuity and towards committed, long term relationships that would benefit them and society.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Those other couples have raised the divorce rate to 50%.

    "Gays will also have a 50% divorce rate" is not a supporting argument to folks like myself who don't want a 50% divorce rate to begin with.

    The divorce rate is the problem, gay marriage needs to show how it's part of the solution.

    When, and I do argue that it's a matter of "when" and not "if", we are having this debate over polygamy, I will hold them to the same standard.
    I'm not sure I follow. Are you saying that childless couples are the reason for the high divorce rate? How do you figure that?
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    WTF is up with the poll results? Polls here never get 180 votes, not to mention 120 anti-gay marriage votes. Plus the numbers are unlikely well-rounded.
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    With all respect to CC I believe some of our left wing friends are stuffing the ballots...........
    I checked. Actually, it's conservatives stuffing the ballot box. 102 "guests' voted for the "NO" vote, same choice made by NP and several other conservatives. There are only 19 "legitimate" no votes, where as there are 52 "legitimate" yes votes.

    Since the "No" vote is the one favored by the conservatives, I must conclude that some conservatives have attempted to skew this poll.

    Now, I'm not sure if there is anyone on this forum responsible for this but if so, what did you prove? That you can mess with the poll to attempt to get folks to believe that your position is in the majority here at DP? Well guess what... YOU FAILED. Just made your position look worse and gave it a pathetic, cheating edge.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I checked. Actually, it's conservatives stuffing the ballot box. 102 "guests' voted for the "NO" vote, same choice made by NP and several other conservatives. There are only 19 "legitimate" no votes, where as there are 52 "legitimate" yes votes.

    Since the "No" vote is the one favored by the conservatives, I must conclude that some conservatives have attempted to skew this poll.

    Now, I'm not sure if there is anyone on this forum responsible for this but if so, what did you prove? That you can mess with the poll to attempt to get folks to believe that your position is in the majority here at DP? Well guess what... YOU FAILED. Just made your position look worse and gave it a pathetic, cheating edge.

    This has been a public service announcement from your neighborhood Resident Despot.
    I wasn't aware guests were allowed to vote in polls. Are you certain they were not "legitimate guests"?

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I checked. Actually, it's conservatives stuffing the ballot box. 102 "guests' voted for the "NO" vote, same choice made by NP and several other conservatives. There are only 19 "legitimate" no votes, where as there are 52 "legitimate" yes votes.

    Since the "No" vote is the one favored by the conservatives, I must conclude that some conservatives have attempted to skew this poll.

    Now, I'm not sure if there is anyone on this forum responsible for this but if so, what did you prove? That you can mess with the poll to attempt to get folks to believe that your position is in the majority here at DP? Well guess what... YOU FAILED. Just made your position look worse and gave it a pathetic, cheating edge.

    This has been a public service announcement from your neighborhood Resident Despot.
    Unless it is a liberal trying to make conservatives look bad. This would not be the first time.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I wasn't aware guests were allowed to vote in polls. Are you certain they were not "legitimate guests"?
    102?!!! I don't think so. There may have been some legitimate... my guess is no more than a dozen. The number is just too skewed for it to be legitimate.

    Oh, and guests are allowed to vote in polls in the Polls Forum only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Unless it is a liberal trying to make conservatives look bad. This would not be the first time.
    Doubt it. Not this poll. Another poll that was perhaps more clear, maybe. This seems like a ballot box stuff job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Doubt it. Not this poll. Another poll that was perhaps more clear, maybe. This seems like a ballot box stuff job.
    It's the way the question is phrased that makes it possible.

    "No--some people should recieve preferential treatment"

    Either way we know someone is being a jerk.
    Last edited by Black Dog; 01-22-10 at 07:32 AM.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    It's the way the question is phrased that makes it possible.

    "No--some people should recieve preferential treatment"

    Either way we know someone is being a jerk.
    Someone is. I don't believe in coincidences. Folks started discussing the poll numbers, questioning the veracity of them. I checked, found them to be pretty legitimate. This legitimacy was questioned and, lo and behold, nearly 100 "guests" voted for "NO". Someone wanted to mess with the numbers. The current "DP member" poll numbers are vastly different than what is reflected in the "official" vote. Yes has 52; No has 19... at least that's what I remember.

    Be aware. When someone starts discussing the poll numbers, one can pretty much guarantee that someone will then mess with them to attempt to "prove" their point.

    It's all irrelevant though. Regardless of which side would win, it would still be an appeal to populum logical fallacy to use the number as evidence that you are correct.
    Last edited by CaptainCourtesy; 01-22-10 at 07:41 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    this thread has been Hi-jacked---call the Law
    Yep... all it took was one Jerry-built comment and the thread went berserk.
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