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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
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    Nope. Not a single state requires children for marriage, and thousands of people get married every year knowing they will not, or cannot, have children.

    You couldn't be more wrong.

    Now, lay off the "lie" word, it's over the top.
    You keep citing people who have no business getting married as though their abuse of the system simultaneously justifies that same abuse.

    According to you, if you can abuse it, it is therefore ok to abuse it. Do you apply this attitude to women also? If you can rape her it is therefore ok to rape her? Everyone else is raping her, so why not, right?
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Irrelevant to my statement. People do go for it, I am one of them. That alone makes your statement not true.
    Bad logic.

    Plenty of people don't go for it, nor does any law anywhere in the U.S. That means your view is far from universal. You can say that marriage is only about children for some people, but you cannot say marriage is always about children. It clearly isn't for many couples, nor for any state law.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Again this has nothing to do with his position on family being validated. That is what this whole thing is about.

    His argument against gay marraige has always been founded in it's not about the family. And for most gays it is not from what I have seen and read. It is about validating being gay in our society. It has very little to do with the family or the raising of children by the family.

    The family unit is the corner stone of our civilization. It was not until the last 50 years or so the family unit has been attacked and brought to it's knees with the advent of quickie divorces and marriages etc. Marraige is or was hard work, it is not easy and was never meant to be.
    most marriages are not about having a family, most people get married becasue they love each other, you ask newlyweds if they got married for the purpose of procreation, and i bet they'll say no, they got married because it is a state sanctioned acknowledgement of their love and willingness to live together, children are an optional extra.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You keep citing people who have no business getting married as though their abuse of the system simultaneously justifies that same abuse.
    You are welcome to insist that marriage should only be about children.

    You may not claim that this is a widely held view, or legally accepted, or a tradition. It clearly is none of those things.

    The burden is on you to convince the many, many people who don't marry for children that they are abusing the right to marry, including possibly your own family members who might remarry after divorce or death of a spouse. Good luck with that.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Bad logic.

    Plenty of people don't go for it, nor does any law anywhere in the U.S. That means your view is far from universal. You can say that marriage is only about children for some people, but you cannot say marriage is always about children. It clearly isn't for many couples, nor for any state law.
    That is all well and good but it still have nothing at all to do with my comment about you making a false statement.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    most marriages are not about having a family, most people get married becasue they love each other, you ask newlyweds if they got married for the purpose of procreation, and i bet they'll say no, they got married because it is a state sanctioned acknowledgement of their love and willingness to live together, children are an optional extra.
    And this my friend is a huge part of the problem.

    And they wonder why the divorce rate is at 50%.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry
    I would also like to point out that the legal institution of marriage in the US is not a private contract; it is a municipal license issued by the state.
    The problem is that the state should not be in the business of granting us permission to enter into a union.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    That is all well and good but it still have nothing at all to do with my comment about you making a false statement.
    I did not make a false statement.

    The law and the facts are both on my side.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You are welcome to insist that marriage should only be about children.

    You may not claim that this is a widely held view, or legally accepted, or a tradition. It clearly is none of those things.

    The burden is on you to convince the many, many people who don't marry for children that they are abusing the right to marry, including possibly your own family members who might remarry after divorce or death of a spouse. Good luck with that.
    I don't need to convince anyone, globally they've been doing it since Man has had civilization.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by peepnklown View Post
    The problem is that the state should not be in the business of granting us permission to enter into a union.
    Yes, that's pretty clear from this thread. That's the best answer. Otherwise we submit to controlling loons who want to run our lives their particular way.

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