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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

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    Finally you admit it.
    I have admitted everything honestly from the beginning. And the reason I don't care is because I am in no way at odds with the Constitution.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Follow it then.

    Just don't require others to follow yours instead of their own.
    Please point out where I have required others to follow?

    It's funny how you want to believe the worst so badly, you imagine people said things they have not.

    Ridicules to say the least.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Antagony View Post
    Okay, if it's not fear, then what is it? Why do religious people readily ignore great swathes of scripture that would put them--and their lifestyles--on the wrong side of God's will, but anything pertaining to homosexuality MUST be adhered to? I've heard it argued it's revulsion rather than fear, but what is revulsion based on, if not fear?
    Again your understanding of the Bible is quit limited. You apply things that do not in any way apply to modern Christians or even the Jews since the destruction of the Temple.

    Before you try to tell Christians about our own Bible, you may actually want to study it so you don't appear uninformed.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    PS your post was not good at all. It shows no understanding of the Old and New Testaments, or how the laws are applied to the covenants.
    Oh please... I was born and raised Catholic (strictly) so don't lecture me on what I do or do not know about the bible. The fact is that interpretation has been changed markedly over the years--usually to try and get it to fit in with the thinking that was current at the time--but the only passages which most churches refuse to re-interpret are the ones pertaining to homosexuality. Why? Just answer this question: Why is it okay for Christians to eat lobsters and have tattoos or body piercings but not to be homosexual? Why?
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Antagony View Post
    Oh please... I was born and raised Catholic (strictly) so don't lecture me on what I do or do not know about the bible. The fact is that interpretation has been changed markedly over the years--usually to try and get it to fit in with the thinking that was current at the time--but the only passages which most churches refuse to re-interpret are the ones pertaining to homosexuality. Why? Just answer this question: Why is it okay for Christians to eat lobsters and have tattoos or body piercings but not to be homosexual? Why?

    Because you are trying to take the old covenant between God and his chosen people (BEFORE THE DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE <----- VERY IMPORTANT) and apply it to those who follow Jesus. Jesus made a new covenant with us all upon his death. So the old laws did not pass away, but they are not for Christan's to follow and they never have been.

    The fact that you do not know this says allot about your general Bible knowledge.

    Even Noachide (righteous gentiles who observe The Seven Universal Commandments) were not bound under Leviticus law.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    God told me at coffee this morning, that people should chill, and everything will be just fine.---But he often talks in riddles, like he is puttin me om.
    "Don't be particular bout nothin, but the company you keep"

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Again your understanding of the Bible is quit limited. You apply things that do not in any way apply to modern Christians or even the Jews since the destruction of the Temple.

    Before you try to tell Christians about our own Bible, you may actually want to study it so you don't appear uninformed.
    Look, if you think I'm getting something wrong, then kindly explain what you think that is rather than evading my points and making thinly veiled insults about my lack of understanding. All "modern" Christianity is, is "old" or "original" Christianity with different interpretations of scripture. Of course I understand that--and the need for it--they were mostly only really applicable at the time and place where the OT was written. What I don't understand is why one particular part of scripture is continually denied any opportunity to receive the same benefit of being read in the light of modern thinking. That is what I'm asking you to explain.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Because you are trying to take the old covenant between God and his chosen people (BEFORE THE DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE <----- VERY IMPORTANT) and apply it to those who follow Jesus. Jesus made a new covenant with us all upon his death. So the old laws did not pass away, but they are not for Christan's to follow and they never have been.

    The fact that you do not know this says allot about your general Bible knowledge.
    so if they dont have to follow old testament laws, why do they quote them about gays?

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Because you are trying to take the old covenant between God and his chosen people (BEFORE THE DESTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE <----- VERY IMPORTANT) and apply it to those who follow Jesus. Jesus made a new covenant with us all upon his death. So the old laws did not pass away, but they are not for Christan's to follow and they never have been.

    The fact that you do not know this says allot about your general Bible knowledge.
    Forget the covenant, it is not relevant to this discussion. The passage Christians quote on homosexuality is in Leviticus 18. The passage I mentioned about tattoos is in Leviticus 19. Why is one of those passages more important than the other?
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Antagony View Post
    Look, if you think I'm getting something wrong, then kindly explain what you think that is rather than evading my points and making thinly veiled insults about my lack of understanding.
    Not avoiding it, just tired of people trying to tell me I don't know my own Bible. No insult either, just an observation.

    It is getting tiering.

    Quote Originally Posted by Antagony View Post
    All "modern" Christianity is, is "old" or "original" Christianity with different interpretations of scripture. Of course I understand that--and the need for it--they were mostly only really applicable at the time and place where the OT was written. What I don't understand is why one particular part of scripture is continually denied any opportunity to receive the same benefit of being read in the light of modern thinking. That is what I'm asking you to explain.
    It should never have been used to deny anyone anything. But the NT also condemns homosexuality. Leviticus law also gives us a look into what is acceptable to God.
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