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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You can always tell when the Captain is around. Everyone calms down and gets all fuzzy. I think it is the beer, but you never know.
    I'm having a vodka drink ya looney bird

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    I'm having a vodka drink ya looney bird
    I got something better! Back injury, I am doing the Rush Limbaugh legally, lol.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    I brought this up on another thread the other night. It just kind of rolled out in response to a "Gays getting married" thread.--but the more I think about,the more it seems like a legitimate question. I ask why would two people of the same sex, have to be homosexual to get married? --Because once married, they would then be able enjoy the benefits that go along with being married. Such as tax Breaks, special insurance rates, and so on. If Two Homo Men can get Married legally, then why couldn't two straight Men get married also? (Not that I would want to, but just sayin) Just seems to be more discrimination against Straight Guys to me. Male is Male, and Female is Female, regardless of sexual orientation.-So my question is, if made legal, should two people of the same sex be allowed to marry, whether they are Homosexuals or not? ---this could be interesting
    "...couldn't two straight Men get married also? (Not that I would want to, but just sayin) Just seems to be more discrimination against Straight Guys to me."

    I never heard that argument before.
    It is a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Read the thread. We have covered this already.
    Ugh, you know what? Fine. I guess this is what I get for coming in late -.-
    If I get bored and suddenly have all this time, I'll scroll through all this just for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You do have the right to live someplace else?
    I'm not so sure any country is as good as America as far as freedom goes. But that has nothing to do with what I said.
    So, that doesn't irk you in the least bit? That you have a say in someone else's happiness? It drives me insane because it isn't right at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    And he is the only one who can judge that. All we can do is try to follow his word to the best of our understanding.
    You honestly believe he would send innocent people to Hell simply for liking someone with the same physical traits as them? If God is that way, then I want nothing to do with Him or His Heaven.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    That has nothing to do with my response as far as I can tell.
    I'm just really trying to comprehend your way of thinking. If you really think about it, that's all it is. Two people who have the same private parts love each other. I was asking you if that's a big deal to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    It was just an example. How did I know I was going to have to explain that.
    What?! You can't roll your eyes at me for saying what I said. That's a bad example. I should be rolling my eyes at you for comparing a murderer to a homosexual! Yeah, I'd expect an explanation from that kind of talk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    So what?
    So what? That's it?
    This country is allowing one group of peoples' beliefs run everything and all you can say is "so what...""

    You have to have compassion for these people. If you were in their shoes, you'd want someone to care, wouldn't you?

    You'd want someone to say that all this ****ing bull**** isn't right. It's like bullying. They're forcing a minority group into submission because of their intolerance and refusal to accept a different type of human.

    Not everyone is a Christian. You can't force everyone to abide by your rules that come from a book we don't all believe in. '

    What about Atheists? They don't believe in ****! As long as it's a man and a woman, though, they're fine. How does that make sense?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    OK. Have fun with that.
    Have fun with what?

    You think it's fun to live in a world like this? Imagine how the gay people feel. You're so stand-offish about this because it doesn't affect you. You're not even going to respond at all?

    Do you not believe that everyone should have the right to pursue happiness? You think it's okay for the Christians and bigots of this country to be able to get married and be content while homosexuals live out their lives in misery?
    It's okay for everyone to practically be forced to be a Christian person?

    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    Ugh, you know what? Fine. I guess this is what I get for coming in late -.-
    If I get bored and suddenly have all this time, I'll scroll through all this just for you.
    You don't have to do all that, but it does get boring repeating the same things over and over.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    I'm not so sure any country is as good as America as far as freedom goes. But that has nothing to do with what I said.
    So, that doesn't irk you in the least bit? That you have a say in someone else's happiness? It drives me insane because it isn't right at all.
    I ment the state, not the country. There are states that have legal gay marriages.

    In the country I live in I have the same right to follow my moral compass as anyone else. If gay marrage became Federal law tomorrow, I would not really care, but if it was put to a vote, I would vote against it.

    As I have explained time and time again to others with closed ears. I have no fear or hatred of anyone who is gay. In fact I love them as much as anyone else, but I will not support the sin.

    No. I don't feel bad about it at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    You honestly believe he would send innocent people to Hell simply for liking someone with the same physical traits as them? If God is that way, then I want nothing to do with Him or His Heaven.
    I assume that he would considering he torched entire city's including women and children for being disobedient. Lets also not forget his cursing people for many generations after.

    He is a loving God, but also demands his children be obedient.

    The wages of sin is death.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    I'm just really trying to comprehend your way of thinking. If you really think about it, that's all it is. Two people who have the same private parts love each other. I was asking you if that's a big deal to you.
    No, not one bit. I know this sounds bad but I and my wife have had, and do have many gay friends. I don't really care if they are gay. I treat them with respect and in return they do the same. They also know I do not condone the gay relationships they are in. I do not rub it in the faces of my Friends, but I also do not encourage it.

    So I love the sinner and hate the sin. As I am commanded to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    What?! You can't roll your eyes at me for saying what I said. That's a bad example. I should be rolling my eyes at you for comparing a murderer to a homosexual! Yeah, I'd expect an explanation from that kind of talk.
    I was rolling my eyes at the fact that you and many others constantly attack the example rather then the point. The point was about sin, and the fact I believe in no levels of sin. Sin is sin, whether it be a murderer, thief, liar or a homosexual relationship.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    So what? That's it?
    This country is allowing one group of peoples' beliefs run everything and all you can say is "so what...""
    Yes. As I said I don't care that much about the issue. I think it is wrong to allow it, so why would I care?

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    You have to have compassion for these people. If you were in their shoes, you'd want someone to care, wouldn't you?
    I do care insomuch as I support Civil Unions, with all the rights of heterosexual marraige. I cannot and will not accept two men as a marraige.

    Marraige is a religious institution to me. It would no longer be that if other than 1 man and 1 women were to make a marraige.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    You'd want someone to say that all this ****ing bull**** isn't right. It's like bullying. They're forcing a minority group into submission because of their intolerance and refusal to accept a different type of human.
    They are not a different type of human, they are simply humans. They are sinners like the rest of us. We are all born into it. I will not legitimize sin.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    Not everyone is a Christian. You can't force everyone to abide by your rules that come from a book we don't all believe in. '
    That is fine, but that does not change or influence my decision not to support it.

    I am one voice in a sea of many, they have as much say in government as I do.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    What about Atheists? They don't believe in ****! As long as it's a man and a woman, though, they're fine. How does that make sense?
    We have s system of laws in place. If the people want it, it can happen. If they do not, it will not.

    I am one voice in a sea of many, they have as much say in government as I do.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    You think it's fun to live in a world like this? Imagine how the gay people feel. You're so stand-offish about this because it doesn't affect you. You're not even going to respond at all?
    I have lots of gay friends, they seem to be having a great time down here in Florida. It does not look like they are suffering to me.

    In fact a majority of them don't even care about the marraige issue. Much like myself. Hmmm... Birds of a feather.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    Do you not believe that everyone should have the right to pursue happiness?
    That would depend on what they are pursuing to make themselves happy. Lets say a member of NAMBLA was seeking their form of happiness, would you still say yes?

    It is again an example. I am not in any way comparing gays to child molesters.

    I should not even have to say that.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    You think it's okay for the Christians and bigots of this country to be able to get married and be content while homosexuals live out their lives in misery?
    It's okay for everyone to practically be forced to be a Christian person?

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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I assume that he would considering he torched entire city's including women and children for being disobedient. Lets also not forget his cursing people for many generations after.

    He is a loving God, but also demands his children be obedient.
    I don't believe in a God like that. But you're welcome to.

    The question is - why should the marriages of other people live up to your beliefs? If you think gay marriage is wrong, don't marry another man. Let gays deal with God themselves. Mind your own business.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Man, I just back from fallin of an eight foot ladder in the garage---whew--not as young as I use to was. busted my butt royal like.
    "Don't be particular bout nothin, but the company you keep"

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    I don't believe in a God like that. But you're welcome to.

    The question is - why should the marriages of other people live up to your beliefs? If you think gay marriage is wrong, don't marry another man. Let gays deal with God themselves. Mind your own business.
    Like I discussed with Tucker earlier, I do believe in the moral decline of a society. Gay marraige as I see it, is another part of that decline.

    So if I can at least slow it down, I see it as a plus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    Man, I just back from fallin of an eight foot ladder in the garage---whew--not as young as I use to was. busted my butt royal like.
    Sorry to hear that. Are you going to be all right???
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No, not one bit. I know this sounds bad but I and my wife have had, and do have many gay friends. I don't really care if they are gay. I treat them with respect and in return they do the same. They also know I do not condone the gay relationships they are in. I do not rub it in the faces of my Friends, but I also do not encourage it.

    So I love the sinner and hate the sin. As I am commanded to do.
    Where are you commanded to do that? It's one thing for you to read the scriptures and determine that you believe that homosexuality is wrong (for you). It's another thing, entirely, for you to take it upon yourself to judge what other people do. A story about specks and logs comes to mind.

    I wonder if you spend an equal amount of time crusading to have infidelity & fornication banned, given that they are all equal acts in the eyes of God.

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