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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Rassales View Post
    You could actually have a debate with me, but you'd rather just call me ignorant. That says a lot also.

    When people don't explain what they mean, "assume" is all we can do.
    Nothing to debate. You have already made up your mind about what you think the bible says, period.

    Since I did not want to start a Bible study it really would have been pointless.

    It is funny to watch non-Christians try and tell Christians what we should or should not think about something we have actually studied.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    Welcome.

    Realistically, you have the written word of a guy who lived in a cave with a goat.
    Wow what an intelligent response.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    How would gay marriage affect you?
    Read the thread. We have covered this already.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    Alright, since, apparently, I'm still shaky on the rules here at DP, I'll say this carefully. I...am not fond of...people who think they have a right to control what anyone else is doing with their personal life. Frankly, it makes me sick. It's sad that we all have a right to decide what's best for someone else. I hate it.
    You do have the right to live someplace else?

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    I'd agree with that, because I am not other-worldly or have some special connection with God, but...I just don't. I believe God is a loving God. There's good people and bad people. While I don't think I know where God draws the line between good and bad, I know he's not going to send innocent people to Hell.
    And he is the only one who can judge that. All we can do is try to follow his word to the best of our understanding.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    Okay, did you read what I said? Homosexuals have the same sexual organs and parts...that's it. Is that really such a bad thing?
    That has nothing to do with my response as far as I can tell.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    Murderers have absolutely nothing to do with this. I'm tired of stressing that point. They're not similar. At all. Murderers kill people. They hurt people in more ways than one.
    Do homosexuals do this?
    It was just an example. How did I know I was going to have to explain that.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    Well, that ****ing scripture shouldn't determine how an entire group of people have to live their lives. That's just wrong. You know? It's like, enough with the Bible! Not everyone is a ****ing Christian.
    So what?

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    God, it just makes me so angry that a number of Christians have some twisted need to impede the lives of innocent people with their book and what they think God wants.
    OK.

    Have fun with that.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Nothing to debate. You have already made up your mind about what you think the bible says, period.

    Since I did not want to start a Bible study it really would have been pointless.

    It is funny to watch non-Christians try and tell Christians what we should or should not think about something we have actually studied.
    First, I am a Christian. I haven't "made up my mind," evidenced by the fact that I've suggested on at least two occasions that we might have a debate about this. It's you who's suggested there's nothing to debate--a sure sign of someone who's made up their mind. You've also called me ignorant without making an argument--a sure sign of someone who's uncomfortable with their assumptions and "learning" being challenged.

    Perhaps you're right that a "Bible study" would be pointless; it certainly would be if it involved one person telling everyone else what the Bible says. A debate over the meaning of a text, however, can be very interesting. When other arguments are based on that text, it's essential.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Not any more.
    Says you?

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    Please use more than a simple circular argument.
    My argument is just fine thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Hey, great. But why should your personal beliefs determine someone else's marital status?
    Because I do not have to support it. What part of this are you having a problem with?
    Last edited by Black Dog; 01-19-10 at 09:05 PM.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Rassales View Post
    First, I am a Christian. I haven't "made up my mind," evidenced by the fact that I've suggested on at least two occasions that we might have a debate about this. It's you who's suggested there's nothing to debate--a sure sign of someone who's made up their mind. You've also called me ignorant without making an argument--a sure sign of someone who's uncomfortable with their assumptions and "learning" being challenged.
    What? a UU? At least that is what you sound like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rassales View Post
    Perhaps you're right that a "Bible study" would be pointless; it certainly would be if it involved one person telling everyone else what the Bible says. A debate over the meaning of a text, however, can be very interesting. When other arguments are based on that text, it's essential.
    I know what the text says, I don't need you to try and tell me it's wrong or I am misunderstanding the translation.

    Nothing to debate here.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Antagony View Post
    Right, you said absurd rather than ridiculous (or ridicules, as you spelled it) which is why my searches didn't find it. However, you did say "either side" and I missed that, so I apologise. But as I said, that post was in response to winston53660's post about it occurring in nature--you'd managed to ignore all the previous comments about it being unnatural--and you then went on to argue against the idea of it being "natural," rather than the idea of it being "unnatural," so please forgive me for being somewhat sceptical of your impartiality on this matter.
    I never said it was not natural, in fact I said the opposite. I said it was natural. What I was pointing out is that arguing that animals are some kind of litmus test for human morality or behavior is silly.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Read the thread. We have covered this already.

    You do have the right to live someplace else?

    And he is the only one who can judge that. All we can do is try to follow his word to the best of our understanding.

    That has nothing to do with my response as far as I can tell.

    It was just an example. How did I know I was going to have to explain that.

    So what?

    OK.

    Have fun with that.
    Well, I would love to respond to you right here and now, but I don't think it would fly with the mods. All I can say here is that you didn't even respond to me correctly. Please, direct yourself to my new thread in the basement. I will post my answer there.
    Last edited by MsCommonSensiality; 01-19-10 at 09:01 PM.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    Well, I would love to respond to you right here and now, but I don't think it would fly with the mods. All I can say here is that you didn't even respond to me correctly. Please, direct yourself to my new thread in the basement. I will post my answer there.
    You might want to remove that link to the Basement before a Mod gigs you for the Vegas rule

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post

    Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality
    Hey, great. But why should your personal beliefs determine someone else's marital status?

    Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality
    Please use more than a simple circular argument.
    What the hell? I didn't post that.
    Last edited by MsCommonSensiality; 01-19-10 at 09:04 PM.
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