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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Rassales View Post
    If someone's religion causes them to hate or fear something, or to discriminate against someone, they don't get a moral pass from those who disagree because it's religion on which they base their prejudices.

    Religious people can use all kinds of language to describe those who disagree: heretic, idolater, blasphemer, apostate, whatever. They'll be technically correct to use these terms, because they have specific meanings.

    I don't know how someone who opposes equal protection for LBGT people can avoid being called a homophobe, whatever the reason. That's what we call people who don't think LGBT people deserve equal treatment--would you like to suggest another (I asked this before and you didn't respond)?

    Until I hear a single practical real-world argument against gay marriage (one based on the needs of society as it actually exists and not some religious belief or misconception about the nature of homosexuality), I have to assume that those opinions are based on prejudice. Perhaps you've given such a reason and I missed it.
    Excellent points, and all without reading thru the entire boring thread. Kudos!
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Read the whole thread to get a clue on what is going on. Stop making assumptions based on nothing.
    Jeez, and people said I could be hostile. I'm just asking you a question. Are you going to make me read through over 40 pages or can you just answer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Because it is not a marraige. If you do not agree, thats OK.
    Well, I don't. I was just wondering why you agree with some things and not others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    The government does not recognize it. So I will not support it, and if I did it would reflect on me a Christian.
    No, I know it doesn't recognize it. I should have said if the government recognized it, that wouldn't reflect on you. If this whole country, minus Christians, agreed with and accepted gays getting married, that wouldn't negatively affect you.

    It wouldn't reflect on you as a Christian. You don't have to agree with it, but if you just had an open mind and voted "yes" to them getting married, you could just leave it at that. Their "sinning" would have nothing to do with you.

    You nor anyone else should have the right to deny anyone else their rights.
    If you have a problem with it, let them be. If they're going to Hell, you won't go down with them, I promise

    Besides, my whole family is Christian and they're accepting of everyone, homosexual or not. God is loving, he's not going to send a woman to Hell for loving another woman. They have the same private parts, that's it.

    People fall in love with each others' souls, and I believe that goes beyond our physical confinements.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    Jeez, and people said I could be hostile. I'm just asking you a question. Are you going to make me read through over 40 pages or can you just answer?
    Yes.

    Not out of any kind of hostility, I am tired of explaining it over and over and over.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    Well, I don't. I was just wondering why you agree with some things and not others.
    For the same reasons other people agree with some things and not others.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    No, I know it doesn't recognize it. I should have said if the government recognized it, that wouldn't reflect on you. If this whole country, minus Christians, agreed with and accepted gays getting married, that wouldn't negatively affect you.
    With a country that is 70%+ identifying themselves as Christian, yes it would.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    It wouldn't reflect on you as a Christian. You don't have to agree with it, but if you just had an open mind and voted "yes" to them getting married, you could just leave it at that. Their "sinning" would have nothing to do with you.
    Sorry but I will vote the way I see fit and will not support marraige for gays. A Marraige is between 1 man and 1 woman.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    You nor anyone else should have the right to deny anyone else their rights.
    If you have a problem with it, let them be. If they're going to Hell, you won't go down with them, I promise
    Please don't be patronizing. You don't know who is going to hell anymore than I do.

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    Besides, my whole family is Christian and they're accepting of everyone, homosexual or not. God is loving, he's not going to send a woman to Hell for loving another woman. They have the same private parts, that's it.
    I am accepting and love everyone. That does not mean I should accept a murderer as my brother or gays getting married. I should accept the person but deny the sin, period.

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    People fall in love with each others' souls, and I believe that goes beyond our physical confinements.
    Not according to scripture.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Excellent points, and all without reading thru the entire boring thread. Kudos!
    I noticed the key word in that post was "assume."

    Says allot.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I noticed the key word in that post was "assume."

    Says allot.
    You could actually have a debate with me, but you'd rather just call me ignorant. That says a lot also.

    When people don't explain what they mean, "assume" is all we can do.
    Last edited by Rassales; 01-19-10 at 07:23 PM.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No, we have his written word.



    Again we have his written word.



    Thanks.
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    Realistically, you have the written word of a guy who lived in a cave with a goat.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    With a country that is 70%+ identifying themselves as Christian, yes it would.
    How would gay marriage affect you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Sorry but I will vote the way I see fit and will not support marraige for gays. A Marraige is between 1 man and 1 woman.
    Alright, since, apparently, I'm still shaky on the rules here at DP, I'll say this carefully. I...am not fond of...people who think they have a right to control what anyone else is doing with their personal life. Frankly, it makes me sick. It's sad that we all have a right to decide what's best for someone else. I hate it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Please don't be patronizing. You don't know who is going to hell anymore than I do.
    I'd agree with that, because I am not other-worldly or have some special connection with God, but...I just don't. I believe God is a loving God. There's good people and bad people. While I don't think I know where God draws the line between good and bad, I know he's not going to send innocent people to Hell.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I am accepting and love everyone. That does not mean I should accept a murderer as my brother or gays getting married. I should accept the person but deny the sin, period.
    Okay, did you read what I said? Homosexuals have the same sexual organs and parts...that's it. Is that really such a bad thing?
    Murderers have absolutely nothing to do with this. I'm tired of stressing that point. They're not similar. At all. Murderers kill people. They hurt people in more ways than one.
    Do homosexuals do this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Not according to scripture.
    Well, that ****ing scripture shouldn't determine how an entire group of people have to live their lives. That's just wrong. You know? It's like, enough with the Bible! Not everyone is a ****ing Christian.
    God, it just makes me so angry that a number of Christians have some twisted need to impede the lives of innocent people with their book and what they think God wants.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by MsCommonSensiality View Post
    Well, that ****ing scripture shouldn't determine how an entire group of people have to live their lives. That's just wrong. You know? It's like, enough with the Bible! Not everyone is a ****ing Christian.
    God, it just makes me so angry that a number of Christians have some twisted need to impede the lives of innocent people with their book and what they think God wants.
    I agree with you, though I wouldn't be so vehement. I would suggest that if someone wants to live in a country where scripture is the law, they should try Saudi Arabia. I hear its nice and warm, even in the winter.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Sorry but I will vote the way I see fit and will not support marraige for gays. A Marraige is between 1 man and 1 woman.
    Not any more.

    Please use more than a simple circular argument.

    I am accepting and love everyone. That does not mean I should accept a murderer as my brother or gays getting married. I should accept the person but deny the sin, period.
    Hey, great. But why should your personal beliefs determine someone else's marital status?

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Right, you said absurd rather than ridiculous (or ridicules, as you spelled it) which is why my searches didn't find it. However, you did say "either side" and I missed that, so I apologise. But as I said, that post was in response to winston53660's post about it occurring in nature--you'd managed to ignore all the previous comments about it being unnatural--and you then went on to argue against the idea of it being "natural," rather than the idea of it being "unnatural," so please forgive me for being somewhat sceptical of your impartiality on this matter.
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