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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    What discrimination? Both genders are allowed to marry their opposites, thus no discrimination exists in this case.
    Try replacing a few words and see how it flows:

    "What discrimination? All races are allowed to marry their own kind, thus no discrimination exists in this case."

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by epieikeia View Post
    Try replacing a few words and see how it flows:

    "What discrimination? All races are allowed to marry their own kind, thus no discrimination exists in this case."
    Why would I choose to replace my words with something so completely unrelated?

    The physical differences between races are historically and biologically transient, and superficial. The physical differences between the genders are profound and persistent.

    Further, while the racial differences are a continuum, the gender differences represent a polarity. This means that in many ways, they are incomparable.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Are you really thinking this through?

    Let's consider the kind of choices that married people can make for one another. If you are in the hospital your partner usually gets to decide who does and does not get to see you. If one partner is in the hospital on life support then the other partner can decide to pull the plug. Once you are dead, then your partner has first say in where they bury you. If one partner trashes their credit, then both partner's suffer. If one partner falls in love with someone, then there are the costs of divorce. If one partner dies, then the other partner is usually first in line to inherit their estate. If there are kids in the picture from previous relationships/marriage, then even if the other partner is not biologically related to them, he/she can challenge for visitation/custody.

    You really think a lot of straight guys are going to trust other straight guys with those kind of decisions?

    There is a reason that countries that have legalized same sex marriage have not had straight guys lining up around the street to marry each other. It's not like the countries can effectively regulate it, but they don't really have to because despite the tax benefits, there are not many straight guys who would trust other straight guys with decisions that could profoundly affect their lives.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    If they change marriage, then anything is possible. People will able to marry animals and inanimate objects.
    Animals and objects cannot enter into contracts.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Are you really thinking this through?

    Let's consider the kind of choices that married people can make for one another. If you are in the hospital your partner usually gets to decide who does and does not get to see you. If one partner is in the hospital on life support then the other partner can decide to pull the plug. Once you are dead, then your partner has first say in where they bury you. If one partner trashes their credit, then both partner's suffer. If one partner falls in love with someone, then there are the costs of divorce. If one partner dies, then the other partner is usually first in line to inherit their estate. If there are kids in the picture from previous relationships/marriage, then even if the other partner is not biologically related to them, he/she can challenge for visitation/custody.

    You really think a lot of straight guys are going to trust other straight guys with those kind of decisions?

    There is a reason that countries that have legalized same sex marriage have not had straight guys lining up around the street to marry each other. It's not like the countries can effectively regulate it, but they don't really have to because despite the tax benefits, there are not many straight guys who would trust other straight guys with decisions that could profoundly affect their lives.
    Just for the record, you are making profoundly stereotypical statements about heterosexual men.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Just for the record, you are making profoundly stereotypical statements about heterosexual men.
    What statements? (notice the capital?)

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Why would I choose to replace my words with something so completely unrelated?

    The physical differences between races are historically and biologically transient, and superficial. The physical differences between the genders are profound and persistent.

    Further, while the racial differences are a continuum, the gender differences represent a polarity. This means that in many ways, they are incomparable.
    I was only comparing the claims of absence of discrimination. If you now want to explain why discrimination between genders is more justifiable than among races, that's another argument.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    There's no reason why same sex couples can't get married. Marriage is a government contract which comes with benefits and abilities not easily obtained via other contract, including end of life decisions, hospital visitation, etc. Same sex couples should be allowed to marry. The problem is that this is a terrific talking point for the parties; so they'll both do their best to not widely pass same sex marriage in order to keep it on the list of things to bitch about.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    I had to vote no because marraige is between a woman and a man - but I agree gay couples should have all the rights and priveledges of a heterosexual couple, just not as a "marraige". A civil union, or whatever else you want to call it is fine - but it's not a "marraige".
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    I'm having cable trouble--hope this gets through
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