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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    We live in a Constitutional Republic not aa all out democracy.
    100% Correct.

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    Homosexuality occurs in nature the very definition of natural.
    The whole nature argument for either side is absurde.

    In nature it does occur usually as a response to a lack of adult females. As soon as more females are introduced, it stops. This makes it no less natural.

    On the other side we have "A natural law." It is also a natural law that many animals eat their own young. Using some kind of natural law argument is just silly. Humans do not base our laws on animals.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    In nature it does occur usually as a response to a lack of adult females. As soon as more females are introduced, it stops. This makes it no less natural.
    That's completely incorrect. There are animals, like dolphins, who engage in same sex activities just because it ****ing feels good. Same with elephants. The male/male elephant bonds last forever, whereas the heterosexual encounters are superficial and fleeting. And both genders engage in same sex activities. We could go on and on.

    Regardless, it happens in nature therefore it is by definition - natural.


    On the other side we have "A natural law." It is also a natural law that many animals eat their own young. Using some kind of natural law argument is just silly. Humans do not base our laws on animals.
    If eating our children provided a vast benefit, then yes, we could use that argument. As it is, though, we use abortion for the same reasons that other animals eat their young. So really... kind of similar, no?

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Why is it that you can be married in the eyes of whatever God you worship but if the government doesn't recognize it through it's bureaucracy, you're not recognized by society as being married? I think it is you who is being dishonest. Marriage is a purely sociological institution. The religious aspect is applied by some. Not all. I'm not religious. And I'm married to me. My wife is religious. And she is married. Are we less married than you were? No, we're not.
    Wtf are you going on about?

    Seriously you're not making any sense at all.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Well, you might have to. There is nothing in that statement that is bigoted. Do you actually know what the word means?
    Yes their is. You can try and ignore it, but we both know the truth.

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    I already responded to this bigoted statement.
    No you have not.

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    All you're doing is admitting over and over that you are in fact... a bigot. Let me spell it out for you one last time. Webster defines bigot as: "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance". Sound familiar?
    As soon as I start treating a racial or ethnic group differently, I will let you know.

    This also has nothing to do with my question.

    Keep dodging.

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    I see you totally ignored Rassales' comment that the word "homosexual" was not even around until 150 years ago.
    Because it is not worth responding to. Let me show you why...

    Romans 1:26-27 "For this reason [idolatry] God gave them up to passions of dishonor; for even their females exchanged the natural use for that which is contrary to nature, and likewise also the males, having left the natural use of the female, were inflamed by their lust for one another, males with males, committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was fitting for their error."

    No use of the word arsenokoitēs which is the word he is referring to in Greek.

    So his comments make no difference and the argument as a whole has been used by gay activist's for years. It has been debunked many times. I am not going to give him or you a Bible lesson on language.

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    So, I guess the bible you're looking at is pretty recent "re-interpretation" with a newer word added. THIS is the problem with taking the bible so literally. Original words and their meanings get slowly twisted and redefined.
    You have no idea how I take the Bible. You are not even a Christian and have less understanding of the principles set down than I do. Then you have the gual to act like you know it better?

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    No kidding? Wow, I wonder... could that have been my point?
    You were making the statement to someone who already knows that some Christians take things the wrong way. So what?

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    You will not find me threatening anyone in any of my posts. Go find one. I won't hold my breath.
    "Should we be talking face to face and you falsely accused me of being a liar I may not be as gentle with you." - ADK_Forever

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    I was pointing out how easy you accuse someone "on the internet" of lying, an accusation some people take very seriously, very personally.
    Than stop lying about my comments and being dishonest. Then I will not call you a liar. Until that time you have lied and been dishonest.

    You reap what you sow.

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    My point was that only cowards make threats while hiding behind the skirts of the internet, as you have.
    Please point out where I have made a threat against you?

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    I don't think people like you have the guts to make such foolish accusations in person. Such behavior seems to come easy to some people when they have been shown to be wrong. Seriously wrong.
    You have yet to show much of anything.

    You lied, I have shown it to be true. You don't like it and then lie and say I somehow threatened you now? Another lie.

    You really need to work on your honesty issues.

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    I do not worry about fools acting like fools.
    Obviously.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Biblical scholers have been through this a million times don't you think? Do you think we don't know what our own Bible means?
    And they disagree about things, as scholars tend to do. Imagining that "millions" of scholars all agree on everything shows a misunderstanding of scholarship. If you don't take into account the actual language of the original text and its historical context, then yes, I'd say misunderstanding is inevitable.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    That's completely incorrect. There are animals, like dolphins, who engage in same sex activities just because it ****ing feels good. Same with elephants. The male/male elephant bonds last forever, whereas the heterosexual encounters are superficial and fleeting. And both genders engage in same sex activities. We could go on and on.

    Regardless, it happens in nature therefore it is by definition - natural.
    Some do and no it does not go on and on, this does not make my statement wrong or nonfactual. Did you catch the last part? Or are you doing your typical knee jerk reaction?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    If eating our children provided a vast benefit, then yes, we could use that argument. As it is, though, we use abortion for the same reasons that other animals eat their young. So really... kind of similar, no?
    No.

    Not even close.
    Last edited by Black Dog; 01-19-10 at 11:06 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Some do and no it does not go on and on, this does not make my statement wrong or nonfactual. Did you catch the last part? Or are you doing your typical knee jerk reaction?
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    It just makes your statement a spin job. Some will stay gay, some will be bi, and some will be hetero.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    It just makes your statement a spin job. Some will stay gay, some will be bi, and some will be hetero.
    Has nothing to do with spin. Did anyone bother to read the last part of my statement or are you all just ****ing morons who can't read?
    Last edited by Black Dog; 01-19-10 at 11:09 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Has nothing to do with spin. Did anyone bother to read the last part of my statement or all you all just ****ing morons who can't read?
    Oh forget it.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Rassales View Post
    And they disagree about things, as scholars tend to do. Imagining that "millions" of scholars all agree on everything shows a misunderstanding of scholarship. If you don't take into account the actual language of the original text and its historical context, then yes, I'd say misunderstanding is inevitable.
    I would agree, but this has nothing to do with the OP or my argument at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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