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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    if two consenting adults are incestous i'd say that there are already emotional issues, and that it would only exacerbate them.

    and if you want a better argument than that, just look at the british royal family
    I don't understand how you can think this way. There is nothing wrong with incest if the person doing it doesn't share your morals. Not sharing spud_meister's morals is not an emotional issue. If you want an example, there have been cases of a brother and sister becoming romantically involved without knowing they were related. There is no emotional issue there, nor is there any guilt involved, and no reason for them to be arrested. The same is true for people who have no moral problem with incestuous relationships. And they are far more common than you would like to think.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I don't think you understand. I am just using it as an example. You cannot kill someone even with consent even if it is in private. It is still illegal.
    Sex is different. The Lawrence vs. Texas ruling says sex is a privacy issue. That makes it protected under the 5th and 14th amendment.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You most certainly can via the law. Your argument is flawed.
    If your not gay, it can't possibly affect you in any reasonable way.

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    I don't believe it is right, and I will not support it. If you have a problem with that, use the system we have in place to change it.
    Our government panders to populism, I probably won't bother.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    If your not gay It can't possibly affect you in any reasonable way.
    If I hit a gay man whether it has to do with him being gay or not, what will I be charged with?

    It may not effect me now, but it may well in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Our government panders to populism, I probably won't bother.
    Apathy is the greatest threat to any cause you would support.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Law that affect thieves, affect us all, even if we are not thieves. It affects how thieves are treated, which affects us all.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    If I hit a gay man whether it has to do with him being gay or not, what will I be charged with?

    It may not effect me now, but it may well in the future.
    If your talking about hate crimes, that's another discussion.

    Just talking about gay people getting married, it doesn't effect you at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Apathy is the greatest threat to any cause you would support.
    Meh, most of what I believe isn't supported by the majority people.
    I'm used to it.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    If I live within a society, I have every right to change it or support it how I see fit.
    True, you have the right to attempt to change the law. To change or make laws to serve your selfish fears does not serve all members of that society. I want to drive my Harley as fast as it will go but, I accept speed limits for the safety of others.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    If your talking about hate crimes, that's another discussion.

    Just talking about gay people getting married, it doesn't effect you at all.
    It may not now, but it most certainly can in the future. You cannot guarantee me it will not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Meh, most of what I believe isn't supported by the majority people.
    I'm used to it.
    Again, apathy is our greatest enemy.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No it is not.

    If I live within a society, I have every right to change it or support it how I see fit.
    In truth, regulating morality is an inevitable byproduct of a social society. The problems isn't with legislating according to morality, since that cannot be prevented.

    The problem is when that legislation encompasses and directly affects too many people who disagree with the primary moral impetus for the legislation. That, IMO, is when legislating morality becomes a hindrance to societal advancement, and promotes the decay of a civilization.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    True, you have the right to attempt to change the law. To change or make laws to serve your selfish fears does not serve all members of that society.
    Who said anything about it being "selfish" that is pretty subjective. I do not support gay marraige because I see it as no good for society, not me personally. Personally I don't care. So your "selfish" has nothing to do with me.

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    I want to drive my Harley as fast as it will go but, I accept speed limits for the safety of others.
    You accept speed limits because of the threat of force if you disobey.

    Please leave the righteous indignation at home.
    Last edited by Black Dog; 01-18-10 at 02:31 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    In truth, regulating morality is an inevitable byproduct of a social society. The problems isn't with legislating according to morality, since that cannot be prevented.
    Agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    The problem is when that legislation encompasses and directly affects too many people who disagree with the primary moral impetus for the legislation. That, IMO, is when legislating morality becomes a hindrance to societal advancement, and promotes the decay of a civilization.
    I see the exact opposite. I see the moral decay bringing us down. Which in turn affects the legislation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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