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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yes, I did. I already said that.
    Fair enough, then. My apologies.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Rassales View Post
    Fair enough, then. My apologies.
    Incidentally, my own argument actually serves the pro-gm 'rights' argument.

    In order to prove a right is being denied, gays have to show that they are the same as other classes who can marry, that the only attribute which is different in their relationships are the sexes involved, and that they are excluded for the sole reason of the sexes involved.

    If that's the case, then I already support same-sex marriage.

    Problems abound as each side drags in tertiary arguments and compound tangents, confusing the issue and complicating the matter far beyond what it needs to be.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Fight a duel.
    Trade insider secrets on the stock exchange.
    Gay marraige.
    Plot murder or any other illegal activity. It's called "conspiracy."
    Drag race, or any other racing on public streets.
    Incest.

    Need I go on?
    Actually, that is perfect.

    Now explain what justification there is for gay marriage being treated the same as incest, drag racing, conspiracy, and insider trading.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Actually, that is perfect.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Incest.
    Now explain what justification there is for gay marriage being treated the same as incest, drag racing, conspiracy, and insider trading.
    I'm pretty sure he is wrong about incest. Incestuous marriage is illegal in most states, but the act of incest should be covered by the Lawrence vs. Texas ruling that overturned sodomy laws.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Antagony View Post
    Do you imagine there will be tests to determine whether a same-sex couple is genuinely gay before they'll be allowed to marry? Only I don't recall seeing that proposed anywhere by anyone. And I still seriously doubt that there will be many--if any--straight men who will want to marry a friend. Some women may be more disposed to it I suppose, but I think most men would hardly even dare to broach the idea... even in jest.
    Excellent question, and one I have often asked myself.---Are Gay people required to offer any proof they are in fact Gay??Not sure exactly what that would entail, but it could make for an interesting situation for sure. ---I don't know if Straight same couples would get married either. I just think in all fairness the option should remain open to them, just to keep everything on the up and up. --I don't like discrimination, no matter where it raises it's ugly head. Straight and Gay, Equally protected under the Law.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    I'm pretty sure he is wrong about incest. Incestuous marriage is illegal in most states, but the act of incest should be covered by the Lawrence vs. Texas ruling that overturned sodomy laws.
    You can marry your first cousin in several states.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    Excellent question, and one I have often asked myself.---Are Gay people required to offer any proof they are in fact Gay??Not sure exactly what that would entail, but it could make for an interesting situation for sure. ---I don't know if Straight same couples would get married either. I just think in all fairness the option should remain open to them, just to keep everything on the up and up. --I don't like discrimination, no matter where it raises it's ugly head. Straight and Gay, Equally protected under the Law.
    I don't know of any country that has same sex marriage that requires that same sex couples prove they are gay. It's perfectly possible in any of those countries for two straight people of the same sex to get married. They simply elect not to do so. It seems kind of like a non issue to me. Nobody is arguing about whether or not it should be allowed for two straight people of the same sex to be married because it is very unlikely to happen even when it is.

    This seems to be nothing more than your attempt to make a mountain out of a molehill. Can you present evidence of a significant demand among heterosexuals to marry someone of the same sex?

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    You can marry your first cousin in several states.
    For the record, there is nothing inherently wrong with marrying your cousin.
    The chance of birth defects aren't that much higher from the norm.

    Largely it's people thinking it's gross.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Largely it's people thinking it's gross.
    Sounds like the justification used against same sex marriage.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Sounds like the justification used against same sex marriage.
    Pretty much, most arguments rely on individual morality.
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