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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    I've been married twice to women I didn't know all that well. but things happen. --Between the two of them, took me for everything I had, plus.---I would trust any number of my Male friends of more than 50 years with my life, and have. They have never let me down. I would trust them more than some woman I barely know, with regards to my well being. ---seems like a legitimate idea. Not for me, cause I got my thing going on just fine. But I can see single straight guys with no family, getting married, for the benefits that go along with it. Somebody to be on your side legally should you need them. Or if you end up in the hospital or what ever. They will only allow in family Members. Someone to legally represent your interests. Almost like an adopted Family member. --so what is the down side?? there always is one.
    Well I could argue that marriage is about relationship stability and providing homes to raise children, and that the evidence supports that for gay parents, but there is no compelling evidence for that with two straight parents, but I know that you don't really believe in scientific literature over your own personal experience, so what would be the point?

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Well I could argue that marriage is about relationship stability and providing homes to raise children, and that the evidence supports that for gay parents, but there is no compelling evidence for that with two straight parents, but I know that you don't really believe in scientific literature over your own personal experience, so what would be the point?
    I respect you opinion, but those should not be requirement for same sex couple to get married, any more than they are for Hetero couples to get married. Anna Nicole had a deal going on. It was legal. I some how get the feeling, and correct me if I'm wrong here, that you feel gay Men are some how better than Straight Men, and should have preferential treatment. I say were all just Men, with different needs. Not one more valid than the other, but Equal. ---Seems that has been the argument from the gay community all these years. that we are all equal. --well it works both ways.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Anyone a religion chooses to recognize should be allowed to marry. Government, however, should recognize no marriage. It should only recognize a unionized legal contracts between two individuals.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    I've been married twice to women I didn't know all that well. but things happen. --Between the two of them, took me for everything I had, plus.---I would trust any number of my Male friends of more than 50 years with my life, and have. They have never let me down. I would trust them more than some woman I barely know, with regards to my well being. ---seems like a legitimate idea. Not for me, cause I got my thing going on just fine. But I can see single straight guys with no family, getting married, for the benefits that go along with it. Somebody to be on your side legally should you need them. Or if you end up in the hospital or what ever. They will only allow in family Members. Someone to legally represent your interests. Almost like an adopted Family member. --so what is the down side?? there always is one.---As far as Straight guys being trustworthy, I say hell ya. Because there is none of that romantic love to mess things up, as it ends up doing in most relationships. . Just the love of the brotherhood of Men. No warm showers, or matching bath robes. Just guys teaming up to take on the world with a team mate, not a lover. Like tennis Doubles kinda.
    The legal trappings surrounding marriage are extensive. Many of them intitutionalize a deep trust that two people should have for one another before agreeing to a marriage. If two straight men are willing to enter such an agreement with one another, there is nothing that should be done to prevent them from doing so. That said, I believe it would be an exceedingly rare occurrence.

    A straight woman and a straight male / straight male and straight woman have long been able to enter into a legal marriage where they may simply be 'buddies' and not lovers. You don't see it happen that often, but it does. Who cares? No one.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Anyone a religion chooses to recognize should be allowed to marry. Government, however, should recognize no marriage. It should only recognize a unionized legal contracts between two individuals.
    that sounds fine, until as I found out, we receive the papers from the court. So as long as Marriage is a legal and binding contract, some form of gubment will be involved.---I would rather it not be that way. ---When it is over, it is over, and both parties shake hands, and go on their way. But that is often not the case.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    that sounds fine, until as I found out, we receive the papers from the court. So as long as Marriage is a legal and binding contract, some form of gubment will be involved.---I would rather it not be that way. ---When it is over, it is over, and both parties shake hands, and go on their way. But that is often not the case.
    The term "Marriage" should be removed from the contract and replaced with something not tied to a specific religious definition. A term able to be tied to a legal definition only should be used.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    The legal trappings surrounding marriage are extensive. Many of them intitutionalize a deep trust that two people should have for one another before agreeing to a marriage. If two straight men are willing to enter such an agreement with one another, there is nothing that should be done to prevent them from doing so. That said, I believe it would be an exceedingly rare occurrence.

    A straight woman and a straight male / straight male and straight woman have long been able to enter into a legal marriage where they may simply be 'buddies' and not lovers. You don't see it happen that often, but it does. Who cares? No one.
    I agree it may be rare, but it should be just as legal an option as any other. I'm personally done with all marriage, my pleasant personality is not cut out for it. . But I agree that all genders should be covered equally under the Law, not just a particular segment.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    The term "Marriage" should be removed from the contract and replaced with something not tied to a specific religious definition. A term able to be tied to a legal definition only should be used.
    I am a big proponent of the "Pre nup" just to spell things out in black and white, before the evil demons of rage raise their ugly heads. We seldom divorce the same person we married. A marriage license is just a piece of paper. The half inch thick "contract" comes later, in the form of Divorce papers. Many a Man has been left in total ruin, do to the "Love of his Life" fallin for the cabana Boy.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    Sorry, still trying to figure out how to make this into a poll--I think I screwed up
    Towards the top there is a pulldown menu that says "thread tools" or some such. Look under that to add poll.
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    I don't see why the government sponsors marriage anyways. If it is indeed a religious institution then the government should have no part in it. If it isn't a religious institution then anyone who wants the legal benefits of marriage should be able to do it without discrimination. Marriage benefits, whether gay or not, are discriminatory to single people.
    The church didn't even get into marriages until 1563 when the council of Trent decreed that marriages should be performed in front of a priest and have at least 2 witnesses. Before then it was a state run thing where possible. Where it wasn't then it was perfectly acceptable for two people to just state that they were married (even if no one was around) in order to be married.

    So the only reason that marriage is considered to be a part of religion is because the church pretty much literally forced themselves into it. And timewise speaking relatively recently.
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