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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    I believe same sex people be allowed to marry, because it's not the business of the state to decide who should marry or not. However, we shouldn't force priests to marry same-sex couples either.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    However, we shouldn't force priests to marry same-sex couples either.
    We have yet to hear any evidence that someone--anyone--wants this.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I know you brought it up as a legal construct.

    It was just erroneous and wrong as one. Its NOT relevant.

    I've never denied that religion is a federally protected class. Polygamists have the right to be married, and marry the person they choose. However, they can't enter into a POLYGAMIST marriage under the law. This is not a bias against a religion, as marriage under the law has nothing to do with religion. This has to do with the structure of the law and the state interest, which there isn't for polygamist marriages.

    If one is part of a religion that believes its justified to kill a woman if she is raped they can not go forth and kill a woman and then get away with it because its allowed in their religion...because its not allowed by the LAW. They are not being discriminated against because of their religion, because the law is secular.

    Polygamists aren't discriminated against because of their religion, because the law has nothing to do with religion. This is not an analogy to homosexuals, because the law specifically DOES have something to do with the sex of the individual.

    The only way religion, and thus religious expression, could be violated is if the religion...which is a private institution...is infringed upon in some form.

    Sorry Jerry, you're just showing your ignorance of this subject here.

    Laws forbidding polygamy/polyandry are discriminatory and based in both religious superstition and the lawmakers inability to craft an effective divorce process for multiply owned community property.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    You can look at my earlier post on this discussing my views in regards to the fact that marriage under the law already discriminates based on the number of people on the low side (IE couples get more benefits than singles), that "amount of people" is not something that would be under the equal protection clause, and that the lack of government interest in providing it compare to the extreme amount of radicalized change that would be needed added to the large amount of quandries without real answers currently that would come about due to it as compared to "any 2 people" type of marriage to see my general views on why it would not work.
    Married couples should not get more "benefits" than singles.

    A man earning $100,000 should pay the same tax on that $100,000 regardless of how many wives and children his hauling around as baggage.

    He didn't ask anyone else's permission to get married, he shouldn't expect special treatment.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Laws forbidding polygamy/polyandry are discriminatory and based in both religious superstition and the lawmakers inability to craft an effective divorce process for multiply owned community property.
    Actually, polygamy/polyandry are inherently destabilizing in a society with roughly equal numbers of men and women. Marriage has salutary effects on poverty, the emotional and social stability of society, and the creation of families. We have very little to help us organize society around plural marriages and in those places where it's practiced, the situations are unstable.

    In actual practice, plural marriages are only sociologically functional among the very wealthy and in societies where the number of men and women is seriously skewed by war, starvation, or other causes.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Rassales View Post
    Actually, polygamy/polyandry are inherently destabilizing in a society with roughly equal numbers of men and women. Marriage has salutary effects on poverty, the emotional and social stability of society, and the creation of families. We have very little to help us organize society around plural marriages and in those places where it's practiced, the situations are unstable.

    In actual practice, plural marriages are only sociologically functional among the very wealthy and in societies where the number of men and women is seriously skewed by war, starvation, or other causes.
    That is the first legitimate argument I've actually heard against polygamy/polyandry.

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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    I brought this up on another thread the other night. It just kind of rolled out in response to a "Gays getting married" thread.--but the more I think about,the more it seems like a legitimate question. I ask why would two people of the same sex, have to be homosexual to get married? --Because once married, they would then be able enjoy the benefits that go along with being married. Such as tax Breaks, special insurance rates, and so on. If Two Homo Men can get Married legally, then why couldn't two straight Men get married also? (Not that I would want to, but just sayin) Just seems to be more discrimination against Straight Guys to me. Male is Male, and Female is Female, regardless of sexual orientation.-So my question is, if made legal, should two people of the same sex be allowed to marry, whether they are Homosexuals or not? ---this could be interesting
    It would be a discrimination against straight guys if the gay ones could get married.
    But, for some of the most moronic reasons I've ever heard, they can't.
    I agree with you, though. I think it would be funny =P
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Rassales View Post
    Actually, polygamy/polyandry are inherently destabilizing in a society with roughly equal numbers of men and women. Marriage has salutary effects on poverty, the emotional and social stability of society, and the creation of families. We have very little to help us organize society around plural marriages and in those places where it's practiced, the situations are unstable.

    In actual practice, plural marriages are only sociologically functional among the very wealthy and in societies where the number of men and women is seriously skewed by war, starvation, or other causes.
    So, if the male/female ratio were something like 1:3, or 3:1, 1 male marrying 3 females, or the opposite, would become socially acceptable?
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    So, if the male/female ratio were something like 1:3, or 3:1, 1 male marrying 3 females, or the opposite, would become socially acceptable?
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    Re: Should Same Sex People be allowed to Marry

    Quote Originally Posted by Rassales View Post
    Actually, polygamy/polyandry are inherently destabilizing in a society with roughly equal numbers of men and women. Marriage has salutary effects on poverty, the emotional and social stability of society, and the creation of families. We have very little to help us organize society around plural marriages and in those places where it's practiced, the situations are unstable.

    In actual practice, plural marriages are only sociologically functional among the very wealthy and in societies where the number of men and women is seriously skewed by war, starvation, or other causes.
    Good post. I've made this argument before as the basis for demonstrating the using polygamy in the anti-GM debate is nothing but a silly slippery slope and diversion.
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