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Thread: The Media, does it actually influence?

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    Re: The Media, does it actually influence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    In my opinion,... media outlets provide their products to meet viewer/ listener demands in much the same (subconcious) manner that churchs meet religious demmands.

    That is (just as it typically is with church goers) people 'shop' from one to another to another,... not looking for one to 'change' the way they look or feel about anything,... but to find one that makes them most comfortable with how they already feel.

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    Re: The Media, does it actually influence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    No, but theres a difference between reading the teleprompter and spewing out production opinion like most news casters do. And the opinion talk where actual non-singular political bias is revealed.
    Which rebuts my point because...?

    The point is that corporations are biased toward making money. If the way to make money is to talk about how corporations are evil or how capitalism sucks, then they will do that. It's a bit simplistic to assume that because major media organizations are large corporations, they are always biased in favor of corporations or capitalism.
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    Re: The Media, does it actually influence?

    Quote Originally Posted by ScummyD View Post
    The media is not conducive to changing a person's political orientation because it is not a forum wherein substantive, thought provoking and insightful arguments are typically made, but where superficiality, lies, half truths and distortions reign supreme.
    Where do you get your news?

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    Re: The Media, does it actually influence?

    Quote Originally Posted by idk View Post
    Where do you get your news?
    Internet. Certain aggregate sites.
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    Re: The Media, does it actually influence?

    I'm sure it's probably happened before, but I expect that it would be extremely rare.
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    Re: The Media, does it actually influence?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Which rebuts my point because...?

    The point is that corporations are biased toward making money. If the way to make money is to talk about how corporations are evil or how capitalism sucks, then they will do that. It's a bit simplistic to assume that because major media organizations are large corporations, they are always biased in favor of corporations or capitalism.
    You also need to remember that the profit comes from advertisement. So if you have a news angle that mostly upset people with lower income, it doesn't do that much compared to loosing more high income people watching the show. That having high income people watching the show are more profitable for the companies that buy the ads that financed the news corporations. Also I don't believe that big capitalist firms are so happy to pay for ads in news show that potrays corporations as evil or how capitalism sucks. You maybe also have a general feel good factor. That if news shows is full of children that is dying in Africa or evil greedy corporations the ads will be less effective then potrayed during and after a more light hearted news show.

    One thing that also can be profitable is news shows that enhanced the opinions the wiever already have. That for a conservative it can maybe be more fun to watch a show with a conservative bias and for a liberal to watch one with a liberal show. That can of course have bad conseqvuences that people become less critical and more narrowed minded.

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    Re: The Media, does it actually influence?

    I believe that studies have proven that the answer is "no".

    People may bitch about "the media", but it doesn't actually change anyone's views; just re-affirms them.

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    Re: The Media, does it actually influence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    I believe that studies have proven that the answer is "no".

    People may bitch about "the media", but it doesn't actually change anyone's views; just re-affirms them.
    Agreed.

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    Re: The Media, does it actually influence?

    Quote Originally Posted by idk View Post
    Capitalism has no political bias, it follows the profits. Seeing as capitalism is consumer based and this country is center-right, there should be some apparent bias; but this is a reflection of consumer demand, not inherent capitalistic conservatism.
    Yea, except that Disney owns ABC, GE owns NBC, Viacom owns CBS...
    - Networks would then be expected to lean 'pro-business/large corporations'
    - If so, who do you think they would be more likely to support in the political arena: a Republican or a Democrat? And since we have no big real mainstream libertarian, it has to be republican.
    -That does not mean there cannot be liberal news stations, just look at MSNBC, all it means is that it would've been more liberal, along with every other major news channel.

    I'll just play devils-advocate on this whole point to save you the trouble :
    So on the flip side, we could say that MSNBC, though owned by GE, is liberal because GE is interested in ratings and profits, though GE would rather it be more conservative, it recognizes that as a liberal station it would pull in more cash (more liberals in U.S.).
    -Doing something based on cash rather than principle? Shocking.
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    Re: The Media, does it actually influence?

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post
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    If you have any doubts about it, watch this: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9nOIusbDwI"]YouTube- Jerry Day on Ron Paul and the Media[/ame]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jZTd9j6_yg"]YouTube- Ron Paul - The Smear Campaign[/ame]

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