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Thread: The Media, does it actually influence?

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    Re: The Media, does it actually influence?

    Quote Originally Posted by idk View Post
    And books aren't a form of media?
    Where did I say that?

    I'm disagreeing with the statement in the OP because I believe that the media in all its forms has a huge impact on what people think and how they identify their own political beliefs.
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    Re: The Media, does it actually influence?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Where did I say that?

    I'm disagreeing with the statement in the OP because I believe that the media in all its forms has a huge impact on what people think and how they identify their own political beliefs.
    Didnt say you said it, I drew an implication from your post. I read an opinion that seemed to discount books as a form of media and instead based ideological opinion on an education separate from media. Apparently, I misread the intent of your post.

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    Re: The Media, does it actually influence?

    Here's a weird out of the box question:

    Is all media conservative in nature?
    There's always a business sector, but no labor/union sector. Also, corporate and business interests sponsor almost all media outlets, not public sector workforce interests, like the ACLU or any sort of union official.

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    Re: The Media, does it actually influence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    Here's a weird out of the box question:

    Is all media conservative in nature?
    There's always a business sector, but no labor/union sector. Also, corporate and business interests sponsor almost all media outlets, not public sector workforce interests, like the ACLU or any sort of union official.

    That's a capitalist bias, not a liberal or conservative one. It is also not the topic of the thread.

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    Re: The Media, does it actually influence?

    Quote Originally Posted by idk View Post
    That's a capitalist bias, not a liberal or conservative one. It is also not the topic of the thread.
    And is sort of "status quo" capitalism not more conservative?

    I know its not the point, just trying to extract some larger conclusions
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    Re: The Media, does it actually influence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    And is sort of "status quo" capitalism not more conservative?

    I know its not the point, just trying to extract some larger conclusions
    Capitalism has no political bias, it follows the profits. Seeing as capitalism is consumer based and this country is center-right, there should be some apparent bias; but this is a reflection of consumer demand, not inherent capitalistic conservatism.

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    Re: The Media, does it actually influence?

    The media is not conducive to changing a person's political orientation because it is not a forum wherein substantive, thought provoking and insightful arguments are typically made, but where superficiality, lies, half truths and distortions reign supreme.
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    Re: The Media, does it actually influence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    Here's a weird out of the box question:

    Is all media conservative in nature?
    There's always a business sector, but no labor/union sector. Also, corporate and business interests sponsor almost all media outlets, not public sector workforce interests, like the ACLU or any sort of union official.

    Let's say I'm a huge Yankee fan who owns a radio station in the Boston area. I understand that because the people in my market love Boston and hate the Yankees, I need to pander to that in order to turn a profit. As a result, I hire the most hard core Red Sox-biased commentators to host my radio shows.

    Would you call my station "Yankee-biased by nature" simply because the owner likes the Yankees?
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    Re: The Media, does it actually influence?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Let's say I'm a huge Yankee fan who owns a radio station in the Boston area. I understand that because the people in my market love Boston and hate the Yankees, I need to pander to that in order to turn a profit. As a result, I hire the most hard core Red Sox-biased commentators to host my radio shows.

    Would you call my station "Yankee-biased by nature" simply because the owner likes the Yankees?
    No, but theres a difference between reading the teleprompter and spewing out production opinion like most news casters do. And the opinion talk where actual non-singular political bias is revealed.
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    Thumbs up Re: The Media, does it actually influence?

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post
    There is some political science term for it (I forgot), but in short it states that:
    The media does not change political orientations, it just influences a person's priorities (like focus should be on economy rather than abortion, etc.)

    Any thoughts? I personally think the theory has some merit; for example, FOX news watchers won't so readily watch MSNBC and vice versa...

    What do you folks think?
    In my opinion,... media outlets provide their products to meet viewer/ listener demands in much the same (subconcious) manner that churchs meet religious demands.

    That is (just as it typically is with church goers) people 'shop' from one to another to another,... not looking for one to 'change' the way they look or feel about anything,... but to find one that makes them most comfortable with how they already feel.

    Just my 2 cents.

    THAT SAID (edited to add 2nd. thought),....

    There is a reason MILLIONS are paid for a few seconds of commercials during halftime at the Super Bowl,... "Advertising does have an affect,... else no-one would waste their money on it"
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