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    French law could see fines for burqas

    EUobserver / French law could see fines for burqas

    Quote Originally Posted by Jean-Francois Cope, the leader of France's ruling centre-right UMP party
    He said the legislation "would prohibit the covering of the face in public places and on the streets, with the exception of special cultural events or carnivals" meaning that "wearing a burqa would qualify for a fine, probably of the fourth class, that is to say 750."

    Mr Cope defended the proposals on grounds of national security and women's rights. "We can measure the modernity of a society by the way it treats and respects women," he told Le Figaro.
    Example to follow or example to shy?

    Personally I think it needs to be followed in all free societies. Anything can be hidden under a burqa, its a danger to society.
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    Re: French law could see fines for burqas

    Crap law which should never be in place. No in a free society, this law would be abhorred and rejected.

    but the fear mongering you put in there was a nice touch. Didn't figure you to be an authoratative neo-con; but you got their act down well.
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    Re: French law could see fines for burqas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Crap law which should never be in place. No in a free society, this law would be abhorred and rejected.
    So, you think people should be allowed to cover their faces and heads and wear garments they can hide machine guns and bombs under.

    Certainly good for both terrorists and bank robbers and also criminals in general, who can hide in public by wearing socks or masks over their face if they please.
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    Re: French law could see fines for burqas

    I think people are free to wear what they want in a free society. It's not my place to tell them more. If they're hiding guns and whatnot, so be it. To be honest, so am I. I have a CCW, I carry concealed. I can't abide by big brother, authoratative laws and fear mongering. Nothing good will come of it.
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    Every society has its own prerogative to determine what manner of dress is acceptable in its own lands, among its own members-- and to demand that people who come into their lands make an effort to adapt themselves.

    People who are unwilling to do this shouldn't be able to expect to live wherever they want.

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    Re: French law could see fines for burqas

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Every society has its own prerogative to determine what manner of dress is acceptable in its own lands, among its own members-- and to demand that people who come into their lands make an effort to adapt themselves.

    People who are unwilling to do this shouldn't be able to expect to live wherever they want.
    The middle east has a lot of strickt dressing code laws. For example not for women to wear bikinis. Not for women to show to much skin. Not for people to kiss in public etc. They certainly have no right to complain if we outlaw one of their clothing, which endangers society.
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    Re: French law could see fines for burqas

    There's no endangerment to society from something like a burqa. That's silly. And just because one country has unjust laws doesn't mean that you should accept unjust laws of your own. The rights and liberties of the individual must be upheld.
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    Re: French law could see fines for burqas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There's no endangerment to society from something like a burqa. That's silly. And just because one country has unjust laws doesn't mean that you should accept unjust laws of your own. The rights and liberties of the individual must be upheld.
    Certainly easier for 6 people in Burqa to have machine guns and equipment to rob a bank than it is for a person with a bank robber mask.

    Also makes things easier for terrorists, who wants to bomb places, just hide behind the Burqa with the bomb.
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    Re: French law could see fines for burqas

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Certainly easier for 6 people in Burqa to have machine guns and equipment to rob a bank than it is for a person with a bank robber mask.

    Also makes things easier for terrorists, who wants to bomb places, just hide behind the Burqa with the bomb.
    Ok, but that's not limited to a burqa. Also, wearing a burka doesn't mean you'll be doing these things. Maybe you should wait for something along the lines of...I don't know, maybe.....proof before you start exercising government force against the rights and liberties of the individual.

    Are trench coats illegal? Long, baggy pants? Will y'all have to wear tight shorts and cut off shirts every day then? Hmm? Did you even realize the repercussions of the argument you just made?
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    Re: French law could see fines for burqas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Ok, but that's not limited to a burqa. Also, wearing a burka doesn't mean you'll be doing these things. Maybe you should wait for something along the lines of...I don't know, maybe.....proof before you start exercising government force against the rights and liberties of the individual.

    Are trench coats illegal? Long, baggy pants? Will y'all have to wear tight shorts and cut off shirts every day then? Hmm? Did you even realize the repercussions of the argument you just made?
    Who can have easy access to a machinegun in baggy pants?

    Burqa, you just have it there and just start shooting. Nobody can identify a person in Burqa. And it is against womens rights as well, something certainly invalid for all your comparisons.

    I dont know if people are allowed in every European country to wear ski masks/balaclava in combination with huge coats. That doesnt seem to make sense. How would you react to a person wearing a balaclava in the summer, completely hiding his face? Is that even legal?
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