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  • This law should be completely implemented in the West

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  • This law is a must in general

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  • This law is good

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Thread: French law could see fines for burqas

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    Re: French law could see fines for burqas

    Arguments for:

    1. It symbolizes oppression of women in Islamic societies.
    2. If a cultural symbol becomes strong in your nation, the symbol must be banned to protect your own cultural dominance in your own nation.
    3. It has nothing to do with the Muslim religion.
    4. And the most obvious reason, it's goddamned ugly.
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    Re: French law could see fines for burqas

    Of course you can get to the machine gun. There's some vid about some kid who hid a ****ing arsenal in his pants, most of which could be pulled out at whim.

    And who cares what people wear, why is clothing illegal? Cause it may lead to something, cause someone might do X? You're going after the rights and liberties of people over what, nothing more than assumption and fear. And you say all "Personally I think it needs to be followed in all free societies."!!?? As soon as you do, you're no longer a free society. So if your goal is the restriction of choice, the abdication of freedom and liberty than you're on the right path. Otherwise, you should understand that free never has been, is not, and never will be safe. That's that.
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    Re: French law could see fines for burqas

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
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    Example to follow or example to shy?

    Personally I think it needs to be followed in all free societies. Anything can be hidden under a burqa, its a danger to society.
    I voted other. Only in court rooms when giving testimony and getting a picture ID/license/passport photo and etc should burqas,hats and anything else that obscures the face.
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    Re: French law could see fines for burqas

    This law will cause more cars to catch on fire.
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    Re: French law could see fines for burqas

    What if a woman wants to wear the burqa? I know plenty of muslim women who wear it out of choice, because they like to, and because they are fairly religious. There is absolutely no reason to force them not to wear it, but equally, they shouldn't be forced to wear it by any man. Maybe France could offer protection to women from potentially abusive spouses if they want to simply not wear the clothing.
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    Re: French law could see fines for burqas

    Paris and New York and Milan decide what women wear. There don't need to be any laws. I remember the priest complaining about women without a head covering. All the women looked a little horrified.

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    Re: French law could see fines for burqas

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Personally I think it needs to be followed in all free societies. Anything can be hidden under a burqa, its a danger to society.
    How about a Catholic Nun's habit or a trenchcoat?

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    Re: French law could see fines for burqas

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    It symbolizes oppression of women in Islamic societies.
    To some westerners, maybe.

    I think the Amish are oppressed too - they have to wear stupid ugly dresses and dumb hats and stuff. And don't get me started on nuns. But I don't go around banning their clothes either.

    If a cultural symbol becomes strong in your nation, the symbol must be banned to protect your own cultural dominance in your own nation.
    It does?

    It has nothing to do with the Muslim religion.
    That one doesn't even require a reply, it's so ridiculous.

    And the most obvious reason, it's goddamned ugly.
    Okay, 1 for 4 - unless the lady under it is uglier.
    Last edited by misterman; 01-12-10 at 12:08 AM.

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    Re: French law could see fines for burqas

    I find it a horrendous example to follow.
    The French may like banning whatever displeases them rather than facing the issue, giving their state more power but I for one do not want anyone telling me what to wear.

    I hate burqas as much as anyone else but I will defend a individuals right to wear what they wish.

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    Re: French law could see fines for burqas

    Oklahoma does have a ban on masks for obvious historical reasons. I tend to favor the fewer laws the better. But given the politically correctness that exists in America to day I would not be strongly opposed to such implementation to counter that.
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