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  • It's a smart business decision in a free market!

    7 16.67%
  • Is it any different from paying farmers not to grow food?

    3 7.14%
  • It sounds wastefull and environmentally unsound

    7 16.67%
  • It's immoral! These items could be given to the poor or sent abroad!

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  • Other, please explain

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  • I'm not surprised Walmart is involved. They are a tool of Satan...

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    Re: Is it Ok for store to destroy & trash unsold merchandise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    I'd have to say that the moron is the one who said I made that statement.

    I said socialists taking over Wal Mart would ruin the company. I did not present details.
    Well since no one except you has said anything remotely about socialists in this thread, I marvel at how you thought it was even tangentially related to the subject at hand.

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    Re: Is it Ok for store to destroy & trash unsold merchandise?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Here's the story: H&M and Wal-Mart destroy and trash unsold goods - Fashion + Beauty on Shine



    What do you think? Is this moral? Is this ok to do?
    Legally they can do what they hell they want its their ****. However it is immoral to waste things like that.They could have donated it or sold to another store. Its like people who go to an all you can eat buffet and pile everything on their plate and only eat a few bites and throw the rest away but on a much larger scale.
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    Re: Is it Ok for store to destroy & trash unsold merchandise?

    I don't know, I think there is more to the story.
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    Re: Is it Ok for store to destroy & trash unsold merchandise?

    What happens if they give the unsold goods away? People exploit the system and wait to get the unsold goods rather than buy it themselves. It's probably cheaper then for Wal-Mart to throw away the goods than to give it away.

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    Re: Is it Ok for store to destroy & trash unsold merchandise?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    What happens if they give the unsold goods away? People exploit the system and wait to get the unsold goods rather than buy it themselves. It's probably cheaper then for Wal-Mart to throw away the goods than to give it away.
    Presumably, people wouldn't know when/what Wal-Mart was going to give away. Wal-Mart uses a highly efficient JIT inventory system, so it's unlikely they're throwing away large amounts of the same merchandise week after week. This makes it very difficult for anyone to exploit the system in this way. Furthermore, any such effect would be extremely small, since some portion of the exploiters presumably wouldn't have bought the products from Wal-Mart anyway.
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    Re: Is it Ok for store to destroy & trash unsold merchandise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Presumably, people wouldn't know when/what Wal-Mart was going to give away. Wal-Mart uses a highly efficient JIT inventory system, so it's unlikely they're throwing away large amounts of the same merchandise week after week. This makes it very difficult for anyone to exploit the system in this way. Furthermore, any such effect would be extremely small, since some portion of the exploiters presumably wouldn't have bought the products from Wal-Mart anyway.
    That system looks pretty expensive. Throwing stuff away is relatively cheap.

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    Re: Is it Ok for store to destroy & trash unsold merchandise?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Here's the story: H&M and Wal-Mart destroy and trash unsold goods - Fashion + Beauty on Shine



    What do you think? Is this moral? Is this ok to do?
    absolutely NOT okay. it's disgusting.

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    Re: Is it Ok for store to destroy & trash unsold merchandise?

    I think it's wrong - not because "these items should be donated" - but because it's a wasteful tactic designed to keep costs up.
    They set the prices based on the number and base cost of products they purchase - unsold items are part of a store's overhead. So, if they destroy or fail to sell items - they're really duping me out of my spent money.

    Example:

    A store buys 100 pairs of sunglasses for $1.50 each (base cost).

    After calculating shipping, delivery, desired profit, stocking and other such costs the items on the shelf then sell for $4.00 (a $2.50 markup on the base cost).

    Since each pair costs $1.50 for the store to buy - overall the store spends $150 on the 100 pairs.

    If they sell 75 pairs of sunglasses then Overall, the customers have spent $300.00 on those 75 pairs of sunglasses.

    The store nets a profit of 187.00 ($2.50 x 75). Base-cost wise, the store only spent $112.50 on those 75 pairs of sunglasses.

    Their profit ($187) + base cost (112) of the 75 pairs is greater than the overall cost that they spent on all 100 pairs ($150) - so to them the other pairs are just trash and a space-taker in the stockroom.

    If they were to just clearance out at a minimal profit to get rid of them - all 25 extra pairs of sunglasses - then they wouldn't be losing money but tey would be upping the amount of clearance they have to sell - some store prefer to sell anything at a minimal profit because profit is profit - but other store prefer to sell as much as they can for full-price, and keep their clearance isles to a minimum.

    Especially Walmart - they must keep people willing to buy what's ON the shelf, not what's in the Clearance aisle. If people could get clearanced items from Walmart - knowing it's not defective - then the clearance aisles would be packed with people and no one would buy the items in the aisles, they'd just wait for clearance.

    It makes business sense - but it costs me, the consumer, money - Walmart made it's profit, they don't care. The company that produced the goods made their profit as well - they got paid long ago - so they don't care, either.

    But it bugs the **** out of me.
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    Re: Is it Ok for store to destroy & trash unsold merchandise?

    They can do whatever they want to, it's their property. They don't owe anything to anyone. However, the reason they are physically destroyed isn't to deny them to the homeless but to stop people from bringing them back to the store for a refund, which is a major problem. Dumpster diving for returnable or exchangable merchandise is rampant.
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    Re: Is it Ok for store to destroy & trash unsold merchandise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    They can do whatever they want to, it's their property. They don't owe anything to anyone. However, the reason they are physically destroyed isn't to deny them to the homeless but to stop people from bringing them back to the store for a refund, which is a major problem. Dumpster diving for returnable or exchangable merchandise is rampant.
    easy to solve. they could donate the items.

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