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  • It's a smart business decision in a free market!

    7 16.67%
  • Is it any different from paying farmers not to grow food?

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  • It sounds wastefull and environmentally unsound

    7 16.67%
  • It's immoral! These items could be given to the poor or sent abroad!

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    Re: Is it Ok for store to destroy & trash unsold merchandise?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I think it is wasteful and stupid, but I understand why they do it. It's a liability issue.

    A few years ago, I worked for a hospital, and one Sunday morning, I went to buy breakfast a few minutes before the cafeteria was to close. There was a huge pan of bacon still left, and I was buying a couple of strips. The woman working behind the counter told me to get whatever I wanted, because they were going to throw the rest away. When I asked why they didn't give it to poor or homeless people, she said that it was a legal issue. If food was not kept at a minimal temperature, and they gave leftover food away, then someone became ill after eating that food, the hospital could be sued.

    In another instance- a couple of years ago, I was checking out my stuff at Walmart, and the cashier had a gallon of milk at the register that someone had decided they didn't want. I asked her why they didn't put it back in the milk section to be sold and was informed that some types of perishable foods can't be re-stocked- same reason as the hospital cafeteria worker gave me for throwing away leftover food.

    It's extremely wasteful, but we are living in a litigious world these days, so lots of stuff is thrown away rather than being used for good and sensible purposes.
    Okay, I can understand the liability issue when what we're dealing with are perishable items. However, these are clothes and shoes we're talking about. It's very different. If the items are good enough to sell without risk of being sued, then it's safe to say they're good enough to donate as well.
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    Re: Is it Ok for store to destroy & trash unsold merchandise?

    Corporate managers have really one responsibility above all others: make the most profit for the shareholders as they legally can. That is what these corporate managers are doing.

    If we don't like how corporations behave, then we should change the system to have different incentives.

    But, sure, yah, go ahead and hope that people won't patronize them because of their 'immoral' behavior. That will have about, hmmm, zero effect.

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    Re: Is it Ok for store to destroy & trash unsold merchandise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    No one is disputing that.
    That's the only qualitative issue present.

    If it's their property, they can do as they would with it.

    Your personal feelings on the matter are irrelevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Do you not understand the difference between "Is it OK?" and "Do they have a legal obligation to not do this?"
    Yes.

    It's OK AND legal.

    If it wasn't OK, it wouldn't be legal.

    What part of "theirs, not yours" did you fail to understand?


    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Of course you don't. You're a moral absolutist. Have you ever had an idea of your own, that didn't originate in The Gospel According to Ayn?
    Yes, I"m a moral absolutist.

    It's morally wrong to murder babies, and morally neutral to destroy one's own property.

    Perhaps you can come back when you can use logic effectively in arguments so you won't have to resort to such silly attacks?

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    Re: Is it Ok for store to destroy & trash unsold merchandise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    That's the only qualitative issue present.

    If it's their property, they can do as they would with it.

    Your personal feelings on the matter are irrelevant.
    The poll question asked if it was OK. If you want to talk about something else, start a different thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar
    What part of "theirs, not yours" did you fail to understand?
    The "zomg they can do what they want" turd is just a substitute for actually thinking about the subject at hand.
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    Re: Is it Ok for store to destroy & trash unsold merchandise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    If we don't like how corporations behave, then we should change the system to have different incentives.
    Better yet, but stock in the company and vote your shares. If enough peopel do that, suddenly Wal Mart is losing money and going out of business, which, as far as I can tell, is the goal of the socialists in America.

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    Re: Is it Ok for store to destroy & trash unsold merchandise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Better yet, but stock in the company and vote your shares. If enough peopel do that, suddenly Wal Mart is losing money and going out of business, which, as far as I can tell, is the goal of the socialists in America.
    Huh? How would Wal-Mart lose money from new shareholders voting to be socially responsible by not trashing merchandise (which according to the article, is already the official position of Wal-Mart anyway)?
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    Re: Is it Ok for store to destroy & trash unsold merchandise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The poll question asked if it was OK. If you want to talk about something else, start a different thread.
    And the answer was it's okay because it's their property.

    There's no stronger reason than that.

    You got a better one?

    No, you don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The "zomg they can do what they want" turd is just a substitute for actually thinking about the subject at hand.
    Or, since property rights are so essential to freedom and a healthy economy, you know, the mechanism by which jobs are created when we don't have a socialist president, that the correct answer is glaringly obvious to people who are accustomed to thinking in terms of human freedom. People like me.

    That you believe that you can determine how to morally dispose of something that isn't yours is symptomatic of your refusal to think. Knowledge that what isn't yours isn't yours is something the rest of us figured out long long ago.

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    Re: Is it Ok for store to destroy & trash unsold merchandise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Huh? How would Wal-Mart lose money from new shareholders voting to be socially responsible by not trashing merchandise (which according to the article, is already the official position of Wal-Mart anyway)?
    Stupid socialist dumb****s that use emotion to make decisions not reason aren't going to keep the Barge of WalMart in the center of the money flow.

    It's as simple as that.

    Look at the damage the socialists are doing to the United States right now.

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    Re: Is it Ok for store to destroy & trash unsold merchandise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Stupid socialist dumb****s that use emotion to make decisions not reason aren't going to keep the Barge of WalMart in the center of the money flow.

    It's as simple as that.

    Look at the damage the socialists are doing to the United States right now.
    So once again, you have no rationale to defend your moronic statement that Wal-Mart would lose money by donating these items to charity, so it's back to the old fallback of "ZOMG SOCIALISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111" even when it has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand.

    You clearly have no understanding of how business works.
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    Re: Is it Ok for store to destroy & trash unsold merchandise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    So once again, you have no rationale to defend your moronic statement that Wal-Mart would lose money by donating these items to charity,
    I'd have to say that the moron is the one who said I made that statement.

    I said socialists taking over Wal Mart would ruin the company. I did not present details.

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