View Poll Results: Since reading or participating in the abortion threads

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  • My views have changed to completely against abortion

    2 4.08%
  • My views have change to slightly more against abortion

    6 12.24%
  • My views have not changed at all on abortion

    35 71.43%
  • My views have changed to slightly more in favor of abortion

    2 4.08%
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Thread: Why are you here?

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    Re: Why are you here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    Ethereal,.. can you tell me how our laws against rape and child molestation are 'feasable' and how a law against elective abortions (by the same measure) would not be?

    Please?

    I would really like to see you break that down for me.
    How are you going to enforce a ban on abortions? Are you going to treat every miscarriage like a possible murder? Are you going to haul women into the police station and inspect their private parts for evidence of an abortion? Yea, that sounds real swell.

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    Re: Why are you here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    FYI,... I am just as defensive of and protective of woman,.. as I am the children they bear.

    That said,... sleep happens (with my woman) ... more tomorrow!
    Just as long as you realize your previous statements were totally inaccurate. Women were, generally speaking, controlled by their husbands and immediate family; it most certainly was draconian. They didn't have the liberty and choice they're afforded today.

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    Re: Why are you here?

    I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubble gum.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OImKPh6N_Lw"]YouTube- I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass and I'm all out of bubble gum.[/ame]
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    Re: Why are you here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I am here to eat bubble gum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubble gum.
    hahaha, i love that duke nukem video

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eckoYQqdk28"]YouTube- Duke Nukem: Balls of Steel![/ame]
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    Re: Why are you here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    hahaha, i love that duke nukem video
    Not Duke Nukem - see revised post.
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    Re: Why are you here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Not Duke Nukem - see revised post.
    Yes dukem nukem, see revised post!
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    Re: Why are you here?

    I use to be firmly against abortion in all its forms. Much like you chuz. Thanks to many an abortion debate plus other debates mixed in I found the value of personal choice. Which is ultimately what our Constitution is about. I may not personally like the idea of abortion. But I do not have the right to tell someone else what they should believe in or do with their own bodies.
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    Re: Why are you here?

    No abortion thread in any forum I've ever been in has had any significant effect on me other than to strengthen my position on abortion.

    I'm still for a woman's right to terminate a pregnancy for any reason in the first trimester. I still think that elective abortion in the second and third trimesters should be illegal. The only exceptions being a severely malformed fetus or a life-threatening pregnancy. I'm willing to reluctantly accept the idea of second trimester abortions in cases of rape or incest, but never in the third trimester.

    I haven't come across any valid arguments, on this forum or any other, that have made me question my position.
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    Re: Why are you here?

    Since it's not specified, I'm assuming you mean threads on this particular forum, not threads on any forum because my answer would have to change. At one point, I was very much anti-abortion, but as I got older and matured, I changed my mind, but that was long, long ago and I have yet to see anything from the anti-abortion side that has convinced me that they have a clue. It's all a bunch of emotional threats and whining, nothing more.
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    Re: Why are you here?

    It needs to be legal.

    I would prefer to reduce the number of abortions through education, access to better birth control (including reversible male contraceptives), and increasing support networks available to single parents.

    edited to specifically answer your question about the forum: I have only been here about a month, and have only participated in a couple of threads about abortion, so, no influence. Plus, I've honed my ideas on this topic over a number of years. I'm a regular contributor to Planned Parenthood. I talk to my kids about birth control. I've written many times over the years about safe sex education, as well as civil liberty implications of restrictions on abortion. I don't think that there is much new information you could give me at this point that I haven't considered at some point in the past.
    Last edited by MsRetro; 01-11-10 at 12:34 PM.
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