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    Re: Is marriage a right?

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    That's wide open for abuse.
    Another is, when you use the argument gay marriage is OK because they love each other, where do you draw the line and why... if you move it for gays, why not for others in love?

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    For a start...

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    I have no problem with that; just as long as all parties involved are consenting adults.

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    Re: Is marriage a right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Simple question. Do you consider marriage to be a right?
    Marriage is a creature of the state; it exists because the state says it exists, and can cease to exist by a simple act of a state legislature.
    Thus, marriage is a privilege.

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    Re: Is marriage a right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Last I knew, it could be done as young as 13 in some states, although that could have changed. But you're still getting a legal adult to make the contract and there are limitations. Certainly an emancipated minor is considered to be an adult in most ways and therefore can enter into legal contracts.

    These are all exceptions, certainly not the rule.
    True, I can agree to that point.
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    Re: Is marriage a right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Marriage is a creature of the state; it exists because the state says it exists, and can cease to exist by a simple act of a state legislature.
    Thus, marriage is a privilege.
    True, but as with all acts of state legislatures, it must be written to allow equal participation by all the people--that part is a right.

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    Re: Is marriage a right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rassales View Post
    True, but...
    ... nothing. Privilege, not a right.

    as with all acts of state legislatures, it must be written to allow equal participation by all the people--that part is a right.
    This isnt the issue presented by the poll.

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    Re: Is marriage a right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    This isnt the issue presented by the poll.
    The poll was made generic. So basically if anything can be used to support/disagree with the answer to said question then it is valid.

    Edit Note: made a clairification.
    Last edited by Kal'Stang; 01-12-10 at 05:40 PM.
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    Re: Is marriage a right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The poll was made generic. So basically if anything can be used to support/disagree with said question then it is valid.
    Arguing that everyone has the same right to a privilege has no bearing whatsoever on, and does nothing to answer the question as to if marriage itself is a right. Marriage -is- a privilege; any rights involving marriage revolve around the right to equal protection, not the institution of marriage itself.

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    Re: Is marriage a right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Arguing that everyone has the same right to a privilege has no bearing whatsoever on, and does nothing to answer the question as to if marriage itself is a right. Marriage -is- a privilege; any rights involving marriage revolve around the right to equal protection, not the institution of marriage itself.
    Yes, it is a privilege but the access to said privilege is a right. It's like saying the government is issuing driver's licenses... but only to whites. Driving is a privilege. Equal access to that privilege is a right.
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    Re: Is marriage a right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Yes, it is a privilege but the access to said privilege is a right. It's like saying the government is issuing driver's licenses... but only to whites. Driving is a privilege. Equal access to that privilege is a right.
    The problem is that there is a religious aspect to the idea of "marriage".

    Not so with drivers licenses...or at least not any religion I am aware of.
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    Re: Is marriage a right?

    I'm in late.

    Is marriage a right?

    Well - if it isn't a righ then it's a priveledges and priveledges can be denied, a right cannot. . . it can be regulated and stipulated but not outrightly denied.
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