View Poll Results: What do you think of the phrase 'He jewed me down'?

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  • I'm highly offended by the phrase!

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  • It's an insensitive choice of words

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  • It depends entirely on the context

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  • As long as it's not refering to real Jews

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  • It's just an old expression that perfectly expresses its meaning!

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    Re: What do you think of the phrase "He jewed me down"?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    . He was talking about how some customers try to jew him down on prices, and other aggravations of running his business.

    What What What?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Did you guys know that the word "gyp" (as in "the fraudster gypped me") is a racial slur against gypsies?
    Sadly I learned this watching an episode of House.

    I kind of agree with Tashah on this. Unless you've never routinely or even repeatedly on occasion used a stereotype....from a stereotyped idiom like gypped or indian giver to more generalized things like irish drunks or italian mafiosos...I think its kind of hypocritical to be screaming at others for being closet racists and such. In general, intent matters, and often I'd probably say racially insensitive than purely racism

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    Re: What do you think of the phrase "He jewed me down"?

    I'm half Jewish and really find nothing offensive about this. Intent is much more important than wording.

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    Re: What do you think of the phrase "He jewed me down"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    I'm half Jewish and really find nothing offensive about this. Intent is much more important than wording.
    And your other half is Christian?

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    Re: What do you think of the phrase "He jewed me down"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I tell you what. As soon as someone crosses the street rather than walk near you because they are afraid you are going to mug them. Or a little girl no more than 5 yells get of my yard nigger, you come see me.
    Ever been repeatedly mocked, insulted, publicly shamed, and laughed out of classrooms – by your teachers - because of your race/ethnicity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No you don't.
    Yes, I do.

    That said, I'm not trying to convince anyone that the ethnic disparagement I've experienced is any worse than anyone else's. I'm saying exactly the opposite – EVERY racial/ethnic disparagement is equally wrong and equally hurtful. To say that the Rom are less offended by negative/hateful slurs than African Americans is patently absurd – no one can possibly know the level of personal offense felt by someone else. And frankly, to insist that gypsies aren't capable of feeling just as much hurt from bigoted derision as Black people, is, in itself, a form of ethnic slur.

    The bottom line: Any person that uses derogatory words/phrases to demean or belittle an entire race or ethnicity is guilty of perpetuating ugly, untrue, racial stereotypes and should be called on it.

    To quote Cardinal:

    once you use a phrase in an angry manner that paints an entire race/ethnic/culture in a negative light, you really are part of the problem, as it were. It creates a racist undercurrent that allows much bigger and badder racism to climb onto its shoulders… using bigoted terms in a negative manner contributes to the groundwork that makes institutionalized racism possible.
    Last edited by Glinda; 01-12-10 at 01:56 PM.

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    Re: What do you think of the phrase "He jewed me down"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    Ever been repeatedly mocked, insulted, publicly shamed, and laughed out of classrooms by your teachers - because of your race/ethnicity?

    Yes, I do.

    That said, I'm not trying to convince anyone that the ethnic disparagement I've experienced is any worse than anyone else's. I'm saying exactly the opposite EVERY racial/ethnic disparagement is equally wrong and equally hurtful. To say that the Rom are less offended by negative/hateful slurs than African Americans is patently absurd no one can possibly know the level of personal offense felt by someone else. And frankly, to insist that gypsies aren't capable of feeling just as much hurt from bigoted derision as Black people, is, in itself, a form of ethnic slur.

    The bottom line: Any person that uses derogatory words/phrases to demean or belittle an entire race or ethnicity is guilty of perpetuating ugly, untrue, racial stereotypes and should be called on it.

    To quote Cardinal:
    Have you bothered to read any of the other posts here?

    I doubt it as it absolutely verifies what I was saying.

    The poor downtrodden white man.

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    Re: What do you think of the phrase "He jewed me down"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    The poor downtrodden white man.
    That's not what I've said or implied at all. Try reading this again without prejudice:

    That said, I'm not trying to convince anyone that the ethnic disparagement I've experienced is any worse than anyone else's. I'm saying exactly the opposite EVERY racial/ethnic disparagement is equally wrong and equally hurtful. To say that the Rom are less offended by negative/hateful slurs than African Americans is patently absurd no one can possibly know the level of personal offense felt by someone else. And frankly, to insist that gypsies aren't capable of feeling just as much hurt from bigoted derision as Black people, is, in itself, a form of ethnic slur.

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    Re: What do you think of the phrase "He jewed me down"?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    And your other half is Christian?
    You have no idea how many times I have had to say this, but: Jewish the ethnicity and Jewish the religion are two different things. You can be an atheist Jew (Karl Marx, for example) or even a Christian Jew.

    I am assuming you didn't already know that, in which case you would likely be in the majority.

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    Re: What do you think of the phrase "He jewed me down"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    That's not what I've said or implied at all. Try reading this again without prejudice:
    Right...

    "I am a "white" woman and have felt "the sting" of ethnic slurs my entire life." - Glinda

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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: What do you think of the phrase "He jewed me down"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    You have no idea how many times I have had to say this, but: Jewish the ethnicity and Jewish the religion are two different things. You can be an atheist Jew (Karl Marx, for example) or even a Christian Jew.
    I'm not sure if you were aware of this notion, but in, I believe, modern (1700s) Jewish thought, there is the idea that:
    Jews are unique, they are neither a race, nor a religion, but both.
    This has presented some problems for Jews over the years, namely Hitler's misconception that Jews were a race...
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    Re: What do you think of the phrase "He jewed me down"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Right...

    "I am a "white" woman and have felt "the sting" of ethnic slurs my entire life." - Glinda

    Why is it so hard for you to believe that white folks get discriminated against also?
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