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Should marijuana be legalized?

Should we legalize pot?

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TheLastIndependent said:
Quite the contrary, they have too much to gain. Just think about how much money our government would save and then earn in taxes. It is scary to think of all that money
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Sure, but I have to wonder if, from their perspective, the political advantages of prohibition roundly outweigh any question of pecuniary benefit.

The US government spent $15bn on the 'war on drugs' in '10. I'm not certain they could recoup that loss with legalisation; even via levying taxation. Prohibition is the cash cow par excellence, and the concomitant moral high ground affords one hell of a platform.
 
NoC_T said:
Sure, but I have to wonder if, from their perspective, the political advantages of prohibition roundly outweigh any question of pecuniary benefit.

The US government spent $15bn on the 'war on drugs' in '10. I'm not certain they could recoup that loss with legalisation; even via levying taxation. Prohibition is the cash cow par excellence, and the concomitant moral high ground affords one hell of a platform.
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In this time, economics should always trump politics. 15 billion dollars a year saved is better than nothing. That money can be spent in other ares to generate revenue.
 
Paschendale said:
The obvious moral reasons why marijuana should not be against the law aside... prohibition accomplishes not a single beneficial goal for society. Even if someone could make the argument that the very act of smoking and getting high is detrimental to society (hint: you can't), prohibition doesn't accomplish that. It doesn't even appear to be making a dent. It's just increasing crime, bringing strife to poorer neighborhoods, massively skewing the priorities of police, shredding the fourth amendment... I cannot think of a single benefit brought to the table by the illegality of marijuana, and certainly nothing to outweigh the detriments.
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What exactly are the obvious moral reasons?
 
TheLastIndependent said:
In this time, economics should always trump politics. 15 billion dollars a year saved is better than nothing. That money can be spent in other ares to generate revenue.
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Imagine if instead of spending billions in a war...we made money through capitalism....hmmm, seems kinda republican.
 
TheLastIndependent said:
In this time, economics should always trump politics. 15 billion dollars a year saved is better than nothing. That money can be spent in other ares to generate revenue.
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That is certainly true.
 
TheLastIndependent said:
That's why I am independent. I have views of both parties.
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I tried to be an independent...really I did.

Problem was I could not ignore Republicans...Dems, no problem...boring as hell'

But supposed conservatives (which they could not be, look it up) actually piss me off!
 
tecoyah said:
I tried to be an independent...really I did.

Problem was I could not ignore Republicans...Dems, no problem...boring as hell'

But supposed conservatives (which they could not be, look it up) actually piss me off!
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Hahahaha. I love debating with conservatives. Sometimes I find stuff to agree on, but I mostly laugh at them while responding as neutrally as possible
 
Constitutionally, on a federal level, yes it should be legal. At the same time, forcing the rest of us to pay welfare, foodstamps, etc for people who fry their brains on drugs or underperform socially because of drugs should not be legal. So that's the answer.
 
I voted yes ... but i do not personally partake.

It should have laws to regulate such as those for ETOH.
 
friday said:
Constitutionally, on a federal level, yes it should be legal. At the same time, forcing the rest of us to pay welfare, foodstamps, etc for people who fry their brains on drugs or underperform socially because of drugs should not be legal. So that's the answer.
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They have required drug testing for welfare before and they found that not many welfare recipients were actually doing drugs.
 
friday said:
Constitutionally, on a federal level, yes it should be legal. At the same time, forcing the rest of us to pay welfare, foodstamps, etc for people who fry their brains on drugs or underperform socially because of drugs should not be legal. So that's the answer.
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I just want to make sure on this.. you are for including alcohol in these sentiments as well right? I see no substantial reason why alcohol should get an exemption while other drugs do not if we go down this road.
 
Navy Pride said:
No, I drink but don't drive when I do it.
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soooo....it is ok if it is your 'drug' of choice? many people, as you are well aware, do drink and drive...what makes alcohol special? why not ban it? instead of banning it, we 'legalize' it, and tax the holy hell out of it...why not do the same to marijuana? as i stated in another post, you 'conservatives' are always beyatching we pay to much in taxes, but you are in favor of keeping this illegal, and paying(with tax payer dollars i might add) to lock up people whose only crime is smoking weed....where is the logic in this? and again navy, for the record, i don't smoke the stuff...
 
Dittohead not! said:
The real reason why pot was outlawed in the first place, in the words of the person behind it, Harry J. Anslinger

"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US,
and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers.
Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage.
This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations
with Negroes, entertainers and any others."
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Good find! That is interesting and the quote you selected from this link is so freakin' funny!
 
TheLastIndependent said:
Quite the contrary, they have too much to gain. Just think about how much money our government would save and then earn in taxes. It is scary to think of all that money
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How about the money it would cost to treat dopers that are hooked who started with grass or dopers who got behind the wheel and injured all the passengers in both cars in and accident? I haven't had and accident since 1964 but if dope was made legal I think I might give up my license......Its bad enough to drive on the road with the alkys but then you add crazed dopers......I pass.......
 
randel said:
soooo....it is ok if it is your 'drug' of choice? many people, as you are well aware, do drink and drive...what makes alcohol special? why not ban it? instead of banning it, we 'legalize' it, and tax the holy hell out of it...why not do the same to marijuana? as i stated in another post, you 'conservatives' are always beyatching we pay to much in taxes, but you are in favor of keeping this illegal, and paying(with tax payer dollars i might add) to lock up people whose only crime is smoking weed....where is the logic in this? and again navy, for the record, i don't smoke the stuff...
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I am a very casual drinker.........If alcohol was illegal I would quit drinking just like I did smoking in 1966 when the surgeon general came out with his report that cigarette smoking causes lung cancer.........
 
TheLastIndependent said:
They have required drug testing for welfare before and they found that not many welfare recipients were actually doing drugs.
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Florida requires a drug test to get welfare now and when they instituted it the welfare rolls were cut in half........
 
TheLastIndependent said:
Hahahaha. I love debating with conservatives. Sometimes I find stuff to agree on, but I mostly laugh at them while responding as neutrally as possible
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When you grow older have a family you might be more Conservative...I was not a liberal but I did vote for JFK in 1960 and as I acquired better morals and being married family values my thinking changed.
 
Navy Pride said:
How about the money it would cost to treat dopers that are hooked who started with grass or dopers who got behind the wheel and injured all the passengers in both cars in and accident? I haven't had and accident since 1964 but if dope was made legal I think I might give up my license......Its bad enough to drive on the road with the alkys but then you add crazed dopers......I pass.......
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How about the money that is spent to treat people that drink and drive? Or the teens that are screwing around and slaminto a tree? Or the mom who was helping her kid pick something up and slams into the back of a car? How many accidents that you know of have been accredited to Maarijuana use? I know of one that can be accredited to Marijuana use but it is controversial. I cant even count to you how many accidents that happen from alcohol. I will not drive late on Friday and Saturday nights because I know there WILL be drunk drivers out there. Hell, people that go to my school have driven while under the influence of alcohol. I am not saying that it is safe to smoke and drive, but it surely isn't as bad as drinking and driving. And whether it is legal or not will not stop people from doing it. If I wanted, I could have an ounce of weed in front of me within 24 hours. But i dont. People can make choices for themselves. We dont need the government to tell us what we can and cannot put in our bodies. That is something that a very conservative person would say. Yet you are letting, actualle wanting, the government to control our lives. That contradicts what conservatives are based on.
 
Navy Pride said:
Florida requires a drug test to get welfare now and when they instituted it the welfare rolls were cut in half........
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do you have a link for this?
 
Navy Pride said:
Florida requires a drug test to get welfare now and when they instituted it the welfare rolls were cut in half........
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Wrong. The people that were getting welfare had a 98% pass rate. 2% of the people failed the drug test. 2%. Welfare does not fund drug use.
 
TheLastIndependent said:
Wrong. The people that were getting welfare had a 98% pass rate. 2% of the people failed the drug test. 2%. Welfare does not fund drug use.
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what is the tea bag thing.....I am talking about drugs............
 
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