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Should marijuana be legalized?

Should we legalize pot?

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jamesrage said:
DId the prices in California go down once it became legal for "medical" use?
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This is a visual answer to your question:
The Price of Weed, Marijuana, Cannabis - PriceOfWeed.com

A few other quick links of interest (I just googled "california marijuana prices" and looked at results from the first page):

Plummeting Marijuana Prices Create A Panic In California : NPR

Legal pot, under the guise of the California's medical marijuana laws, has spurred a rush of new competition. As a result, the wholesale price of pot grown in these areas is plunging.
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Marijuana Prices In Medical-Pot States Like California At Low, Low Prices (Thanks To Drug Gangs And Mexican Cartels) - Los Angeles News - The Informer

Those crunchy, Birkenstock-wearing California-haters in Oregon enjoy the lowest pot prices in the country. Weed is $259 an ounce there. In Georgia and Virginia, where medical weed is not legal, bud sells for $452.
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this one is unfortunate since it lends credibility to the argument that the fed can regulate because of interstate commerce:

California pot sellers pursue higher prices in other states, face arrest | California Watch

the Golden State’s burgeoning medical marijuana trade has pushed down prices here and prompted growers to seek more lucrative business across the country.
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Another unfortunate link; this one underscores how it is government crackdowns and intervention that can and has led to inflated prices:

California Marijuana Prices Rising In Wake Of Federal Crackdown

A crackdown by federal prosecutors is casting a long shadow over the state's marijuana industry, but there is one bright spot, at least for some Northern California growers willing to risk prison time: Wholesale prices appear to be on the rise.

After slumping precipitously, prices for a pound of high-grade, outdoor-grown marijuana are stabilizing and in some areas are up between 20 and 40 percent, according to interviews with growers, law enforcement agents and analysts.
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jamesrage said:
DId the prices in California go down once it became legal for "medical" use?
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I don't know. I don't buy the stuff.

I have noticed that the Mexican cartels aren't in the business of killing each other off for the privilege of exporting whiskey into the US. Why might that be?
 
Dittohead not! said:
I don't know. I don't buy the stuff.

I have noticed that the Mexican cartels aren't in the business of killing each other off for the privilege of exporting whiskey into the US. Why might that be?
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That is completely irrelevant!! We are talking about an illegal substance that people buy and sell under the law and is popular.... oh wait.... this is an exact repeat of the horrible failure of prohibition. LEGALIZE!
 
See the poll results?

Precisely why we'll never be granted the referendum.
 
NoC_T said:
See the poll results?

Precisely why we'll never be granted the referendum.
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We are only a small scaled example as to how the American people feel. I am pretty sure that every American likes the idea of saving money however which would be to end the war on drugs
 
Mensch said:
Guns don't kill people. People kill people (and themselves)

Alcohol doesn't kill people. People kill people (and themselves)

Marijuana doesn't kill people. Period.

The vast majority of DUI-related accidents where the driver tests positive for marijuana also involved a significant use of alcohol. Show me the statistics of DUI-related accidents resulting solely from marijuana usage.
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Grass eats brain cells and a person high on grass ilikely to have and accident more then a normal person....
 
Navy Pride said:
Grass caused the accident............No grass no accident......
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Alcohol is accredited to many more accidents than any other stimulant. It is not because Marijuana is illegal, it is because alcohol impairs decision making and motor skills much more. I know people that have driven high. Although I wouldn't recommend it and would want it to be illegal like drunk driving is, I have SEEN that high drivers are much more capable than drunk drivers
 
NoC_T said:
See the poll results?

Precisely why we'll never be granted the referendum.
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The poll does not refflect the polls taken across the country it only shows that DP is mostly occupied by a bunch of young grass smokers.........
 
Navy Pride said:
The poll does not refflect the polls taken across the country it only shows that DP is mostly occupied by a bunch of young grass smokers.........
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Im 16, never smoked, not sure if I plan to, but it needs to be legalized. It is more of an economic issue than a social one.
 
TheLastIndependent said:
Alcohol is accredited to many more accidents than any other stimulant. It is not because Marijuana is illegal, it is because alcohol impairs decision making and motor skills much more. I know people that have driven high. Although I wouldn't recommend it and would want it to be illegal like drunk driving is, I have SEEN that high drivers are much more capable than drunk drivers
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Truthfully alcohol is bad to but its legal...No need to add another poison to the mix.
 
TheLastIndependent said:
Im 16, never smoked, not sure if I plan to, but it needs to be legalized. It is more of an economic issue than a social one.
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I know your 16 and you don't think of these things but go to a DA meeting some time and listen to the horror stories these people tell.....If you want to get high on something get high on life..........that is what my kids and grandkids do......Anyhow before you make a decision one way or the other read some of the studies that have been done........Try to find non bias ones....they are out there.....

PS oh and remember this half the guys that voted in the poll are probably already hooked on it........that is why they want to legalize it.........
 
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Navy Pride said:
I know your 16 and you don't think of these things but go to a DA meeting some time and listen to the horror stories these people tell.....If you want to get high on something get high on life..........that is what my kids and grandkids do......Anyhow before you make a decision one way or the other read some of the studies that have been done........Try to find non bias ones....they are out there.....

PS oh and remember this half the guys that voted in the poll are probably already hooked on it........that is why they want to legalize it.........
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Drugs can be bad and they can be good. Similar to caffeine studies, there is varying data on the long term affects. For some people, caffeine is detrimental to their memory while to others it is helpful. On the flip, I have never heard of anyone drinking alcohol cause it can give them a positive affect. But I did find a list of possible negatives that vary from group to group and cannot be directly traced to THC consumption,


"Smoking one or more joints a day during a year or longer is considered long-term use. However, this varies from researcher to researcher.

The health risks of this long-term use are:

In some cases high quantity users can experience feelings of anxiety, depression and be seriously unwell.
Cannabis influences driving ability.
Smoking cannabis causes carcinogens to enter the body.
During pregnancy, cannabis can have negative consequences for the fetus.
Long-term use of cannabis may affect thinking, emotions and feelings.
In some cases, long-term use of cannabis can lead to dependence and abuse.
Cannabis can provoke a psychosis in people who are sensitive to it. More.
Some researchers are of the opinion that:
Cannabis is a first step to the use of hard drugs.
Cannabis has negative effects on the immune system.
Cannabis influences fertility.
Cannabis causes schizophrenia.
Cannabis leads to apathy and loss of interest.
Cannabis can cause anger, especially when trying to stop using Cananabis.

However, there is no proof for these statements."

IMO, these negatives are much less than those of alcohol except for the possibility of it being a gate way drug. But then again most other drugs do very nasty things to the body and I personally would never even consider them. But the reality is, Marijuana is the lesser of Tobacco and Alcohol.
 
Navy Pride said:
I know your 16 and you don't think of these things but go to a DA meeting some time and listen to the horror stories these people tell.....If you want to get high on something get high on life..........that is what my kids and grandkids do......Anyhow before you make a decision one way or the other read some of the studies that have been done........Try to find non bias ones....they are out there.....

PS oh and remember this half the guys that voted in the poll are probably already hooked on it........that is why they want to legalize it.........
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Congratulations NP, you've proven once more you know nothing on yet another subject.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Congratulations NP, you've proven once more you know nothing on yet another subject.
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Do you ever bring anything to the table except attacking another member when your clueless on the issue? Inquiring minds want to know my left wing friend..........
 
Navy Pride said:
Do you ever bring anything to the table except attacking another member when your clueless on the issue? Inquiring minds want to know my left wing friend..........
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I've already posted in this thread.

I'm clueless? You know nothing about marijuana except that it's illegal. And that's the only reason you don't want it legalized. Not because of the effects, not because of the possible side effects, but because it would require change.
You're the clueless one. Whenever someone prevents facts and and logic that goes against your way of thinking, your criticize it as 'biased and unfair".

Before you go around and call other members clueless, I suggest you look in the mirror.
 
The obvious moral reasons why marijuana should not be against the law aside... prohibition accomplishes not a single beneficial goal for society. Even if someone could make the argument that the very act of smoking and getting high is detrimental to society (hint: you can't), prohibition doesn't accomplish that. It doesn't even appear to be making a dent. It's just increasing crime, bringing strife to poorer neighborhoods, massively skewing the priorities of police, shredding the fourth amendment... I cannot think of a single benefit brought to the table by the illegality of marijuana, and certainly nothing to outweigh the detriments.
 
TheLastIndependent said:
We are only a small scaled example as to how the American people feel. I am pretty sure that every American likes the idea of saving money however which would be to end the war on drugs
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I agree. And whether the poll reflects the attitude of the general populace or not, it's pretty clear that the results of a referendum would favour decriminalisation. Of course we'll never be granted one. The swines have too much to lose.
 
NoC_T said:
I agree. And whether the poll reflects the attitude of the general populace or not, it's pretty clear that the results of a referendum would favour decriminalisation. Of course we'll never be granted one. The swines have too much to lose.
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Quite the contrary, they have too much to gain. Just think about how much money our government would save and then earn in taxes. It is scary to think of all that money
 
Navy Pride said:
The poll does not refflect the polls taken across the country it only shows that DP is mostly occupied by a bunch of young grass smokers.........
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I don't smoke it. I still want it legalised.

There's no sense in prohibiting it. It's a totally bizarre situation, with no plus side.
 
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