• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Should marijuana be legalized?

Should we legalize pot?

  • Total voters
    113
JasonI said:
You should really end your posts with IMO because your opinions rarely match up to the facts...
Click to expand...

You really need to get educated on the issue...........There are numerous studies that say grass eats brain cells in addition for a lot of people leads to hard drugs when they can no longer get a buzz on from grass.....
 
JasonI said:
Please show me one study that says marijuana kills you...go ahead and type it with me...IMO...very easy...you don't even have to use caps if you don't want to...
Click to expand...

I did not say it killed you....can you read at all?
 
Navy Pride said:
You really need to get educated on the issue...........There are numerous studies that say grass eats brain cells in addition for a lot of people leads to hard drugs when they can no longer get a buzz on from grass.....
Click to expand...

Yet I keep asking you for proof of your claims and you continue to produce nothing but the same opinions...I'm starting to sense a pattern with you...
 
Navy Pride said:
You really need to get educated on the issue...........There are numerous studies that say grass eats brain cells in addition for a lot of people leads to hard drugs when they can no longer get a buzz on from grass.....
Click to expand...

I'm all ears, Navy Pride. If you would, please trot all that information out. If you know it, you got to show it. I'll read every word you forward, bro. Thanks in advance.
 
Independent-

If only life was so simple that many folks who end up in prison could have just picked a life of work rather than crime. For most first timers in prison it was a dumb thoughtless action not a serious selection like in some high school career day. It isn't as if the line for Judge, Jury, and executioner was too full so the guy picked repeat felon.

Not saying there are no bad apples but making blanket statements is best left to the old curmudgeons who think they know all... ;)

While the old heroin comes on the heels of pot song is the traditional 'example' of the death trap blowing a doobie can be, these days most harder drugs come from GrandPa's medicine cabinet not from overseas. This isn't the 70's. Rush Limbaugh knew exactly how to get his oxycodone, and if that old fat holier than thou could figure it out anyone can.

Legal or illegal, people who want any drugs can find them. Bet within two blocks of where anyone lives these days there is at least one person who knows where, and for how much. Bet within a block there is at least one dealer/meth lab/convict with a drug conviction.

War on Drugs has been going on for most my adult life, can't says I can see any progress or a victory parade in sight.
 
digsbe said:
We have THC in pill form. "Legalizing" marijuana for medical use is absurd in my opinion.
Click to expand...

Me too. It should be legalized, across the board, with the exception of minors.
 
JasonI said:
Yet I keep asking you for proof of your claims and you continue to produce nothing but the same opinions...I'm starting to sense a pattern with you...
Click to expand...

Sorry I never try to prove facts........you can smoke all the pot you want just stay the **** off the highway.
 
Mensch said:
Me too. It should be legalized, across the board, with the exception of minors.
Click to expand...

I disagree. It should remain illegal and the states who have "legalized" it for medical purposes need to be brought to court. They violate federal drug laws by doing so.
 
Navy Pride said:
You do know that grass eats brain cells right? Alot of people start out on grass and when they can no longer get doped out on it graduate to cocaine or heroin.........I hope you never do it....I have a grandson your age and he would never put poison in his body....None of my kids or grandchildren ever did drugs...we raised them right........
Click to expand...

Of course, alcoholics all started with their first beer... and guys that drive get-away cars in bank robberies all had learner permits.... but that opposite is hardly true. Only a small portion of those that have that first beer or first joint end up addicted. If you have addictive behavior, then you may become addicted to addictive things.
 
digsbe said:
I disagree. It should remain illegal and the states who have "legalized" it for medical purposes need to be brought to court. They violate federal drug laws by doing so.
Click to expand...

Federal drug laws violate the Tenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, unless you're willing to use the commerce clause to have the feds circumvent the Bill of Rights on all matters.

There is no logical reason to prohibit marijuana, ESPECIALLY on the federal level. State governments should be free to make this decision on their own, but it is absurd to prohibit a seemingly benign substance.
 
JasonI said:
Thanks for your permission...

Don't you ever get tired of being so wrong?
Click to expand...

You know when I was still in the Navy the Chiefs on the ship I was on took a trip over to the Fort Tripler Army hospital..........we visited a ward called the LL ward.........The patients were all drug addicts probably like some of you dopers are.......In one section there was a bunch of kid addicts.......Most of them were so spaced out they did not even know where they were. Some had not even spoken the whole time they were there....The majority of them started on grass and graduated to hard stuff.......It really got my attention and I will never forget it........Put that poison in your body if you like but be prepared for the consequences.......
 
Mensch said:
Federal drug laws violate the Tenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, unless you're willing to use the commerce clause to have the feds circumvent the Bill of Rights on all matters.

There is no logical reason to prohibit marijuana, ESPECIALLY on the federal level. State governments should be free to make this decision on their own, but it is absurd to prohibit a seemingly benign substance.
Click to expand...

How so? And if there is no logical reason to prevent dangerous and toxic substances from being legal then why have water treatment plants or food standards? The government can regulate what they deem as unhealthy and make certain things illegal. Our whole medical model is essentially based around the fact that patients are not legally entitled to self treat and must be diagnosed. You can't have legal access to thyroid meds or blood pressure meds largely because it's not healthy for you to have them unsupervised by medical professionals. The government absolutely has the right to regulate and make drugs illegal just like they do with other things they deem to be dangerous or bad for society.
 
Navy Pride said:
You know when I was still in the Navy the Chiefs on the ship I was on took a trip over to the Fort Tripler Army hospital..........we visited a ward called the LL ward.........The patients were all drug addicts probably like some of you dopers are.......In one section there was a bunch of kid addicts.......Most of them were so spaced out they did not even know where they were. Some had not even spoken the whole time they were there....The majority of them started on grass and graduated to hard stuff.......It really got my attention and I will never forget it........Put that poison in your body if you like but be prepared for the consequences.......
Click to expand...


What year was that? 1942?
 
Navy Pride said:
You know when I was still in the Navy the Chiefs on the ship I was on took a trip over to the Fort Tripler Army hospital..........we visited a ward called the LL ward.........The patients were all drug addicts probably like some of you dopers are.......In one section there was a bunch of kid addicts.......Most of them were so spaced out they did not even know where they were. Some had not even spoken the whole time they were there....The majority of them started on grass and graduated to hard stuff.......It really got my attention and I will never forget it........Put that poison in your body if you like but be prepared for the consequences.......
Click to expand...
and you know the 'majority' started on pot because you interviewed each and every one of them, right?
 
upsideguy said:
Of course, alcoholics all started with their first beer... and guys that drive get-away cars in bank robberies all had learner permits.... but that opposite is hardly true. Only a small portion of those that have that first beer or first joint end up addicted. If you have addictive behavior, then you may become addicted to addictive things.
Click to expand...

does that thinking make you able to sleep better at night?
 
randel said:
and you know the 'majority' started on pot because you interviewed each and every one of them, right?
Click to expand...

No the doctors interviewed thweir parents and loved ones......I did not interview anyone but I read several case histories of the young people.......By the way the oldest was 16.....
 
Navy Pride said:
No the doctors interviewed thweir parents and loved ones......I did not interview anyone but I read several case histories of the young people.......By the way the oldest was 16.....
Click to expand...
so, everything you 'know', is second hand...and on another note, how did you get ahold of the 'case histories'? also, 'several' isnt necessarily a 'majority'...
 
digsbe said:
How so? And if there is no logical reason to prevent dangerous and toxic substances from being legal then why have water treatment plants or food standards? The government can regulate what they deem as unhealthy and make certain things illegal. Our whole medical model is essentially based around the fact that patients are not legally entitled to self treat and must be diagnosed. You can't have legal access to thyroid meds or blood pressure meds largely because it's not healthy for you to have them unsupervised by medical professionals. The government absolutely has the right to regulate and make drugs illegal just like they do with other things they deem to be dangerous or bad for society.
Click to expand...

You may one to demand government prohibit everything from alcohol to tobacco to coffee because it is "dangerous or bad for society," but that doesn't change the fact that it is absurd and unconstitutional. This isn't marijuana use vs. water treatment facilities. You're comparing apples to bananas. As for medicinal, you're still coming at the issue from the medical marijuana perspective, whereas I'm arguing the point from a general recreational purpose. If what your logic is followed through, you would have essentially surrendered all rights to any use of almost anything minus rationed organic nutrients.
 
randel said:
so, everything you 'know', is second hand...and on another note, how did you get ahold of the 'case histories'? also, 'several' isnt necessarily a 'majority'...
Click to expand...

Boy its amazing how you dopers can rationalize putting poison in your body........I don't care what you do but when you get out on the highway spaced out you endanger innocent people, in addition when you crack you car up and don't have any money my taxes have to pay for your care...................A lot is involved when you dopers get high whether you admit it or not.
 
Mensch said:
You may one to demand government prohibit everything from alcohol to tobacco to coffee because it is "dangerous or bad for society," but that doesn't change the fact that it is absurd and unconstitutional. This isn't marijuana use vs. water treatment facilities. You're comparing apples to bananas. As for medicinal, you're still coming at the issue from the medical marijuana perspective, whereas I'm arguing the point from a general recreational purpose. If what your logic is followed through, you would have essentially surrendered all rights to any use of almost anything minus rationed organic nutrients.
Click to expand...

You don't have a right to all substances under the sun. My reasoning is that drugs like oxycodone, morphine, and others are tightly controlled under the law due to their effects (highs) and abuses (using the medication for a high and not fore treatment). Marijuana is a schedule I drug, which makes it illegal. Oxycodone and others listed are schedule II which means they are legal but tightly controlled. By your logic should people have the right to pick up any schedule II drug and use it for any purpose? What about all medications that are legal only with a prescription? Just because you tack on the word "right" to something really doesn't make it your protected right.
 
randel said:
so, everything you 'know', is second hand...and on another note, how did you get ahold of the 'case histories'? also, 'several' isnt necessarily a 'majority'...
Click to expand...

We were a group of Chief Petty officers (Senior enlisteds for those who have no clue about the military)........We were suppose to go back to the ship and try impress on the young people how drugs can **** you up and that is what we did.......
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom