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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    Without more specifics being linked to the poll question,... I can't vote.

    In reference to the poll question,... are we to consider pot being 'legal' like cigarettes? Or like booze?

    They are two completely different vices.

    Think open containers, second hand smoke, public buildings, operating machinery, driving school busses,. etc.

    Would it be legal to drive and smoke pot if pot were to be made legal?

    The poll question is too vague for me,...

    that's all.
    Oh, I thought you were asking me specifically. I don't know what the OP means by legalized.

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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    low THC marijuana is arguably MORE dangerous in that you have to smoke more of it to get the same effect.

    Which is worse: someone drinking 120 ounces of beer, or someone drinking 15 ounces of Scotch, which is 8 times as concentrated???

    This is like saying an 800 mg motrin is more dangerous than a 400 mg. - If I take (2) 400 mgs, or if I take (1) 800 mg motrin, to get the exact same effect, and they are equally as dangerous.

    Of course if you want to play the "high THC content is so much more dangerous" game, then why is there a prescription 100% THC pill available that is touted as a "safer" alternative?

    If 20% THC is so much more dangerous than 5% THC, than 100% THC has to be MUCH MUCH more dangerous than 20%.

    your reasoning is FATALLY flawed. Concentration changes dosage.




    has the same effect as THC? it interacts with the cannabinoid receptors in the brain and causes the same intoxication??

    the effects of absinth are a result of the drug Thujone, which has its own specific effects, it is nothing like a cannabinoid.

    your argument stands as well as a two legged stool.
    What are you blathering on about?
    Are you really saying that a weaker concentration of a drug is more dangerous than a stronger concentration?
    This is idiotic.
    A spliff which is strong enough to chill you out is better than one that is strong enough to knock you out.
    It doesnt follow that you would smoke spliffs until you get knocked out ,does it?
    As for the absinthe I have read that wormwood has similar effects as thc .
    Wrong or right the argument stands. You havent got a leg to stand on.
    You make toke until you are wasted...maybe you are now.

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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    Without more specifics being linked to the poll question,... I can't vote.

    In reference to the poll question,... are we to consider pot being 'legal' like cigarettes? Or like booze?

    They are two completely different vices.

    Think open containers, second hand smoke, public buildings, operating machinery, driving school busses,. etc.

    Would it be legal to drive and smoke pot if pot were to be made legal?

    The poll question is too vague for me,...

    that's all.
    the control measures for both tobacco and alcohol are unique to the substance, we learn from each, we draw from each, and we come up with control measures tailored specifically towards cannabis.

    As an intoxicant the structure of the controls surrounding the legality of cannabis most assuredly would more closely resemble the controls in place for alcohol, than it would the controls for tobacco.
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    Thumbs up Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    the control measures for both tobacco and alcohol are unique to the substance, we learn from each, we draw from each, and we come up with control measures tailored specifically towards cannabis.

    As an intoxicant the structure of the controls surrounding the legality of cannabis most assuredly would more closely resemble the controls in place for alcohol, than it would the controls for tobacco.
    That's fine,... but it still doesn't tell me what I would be voting for if I voted "yes" to the poll.

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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    That's fine,... but it still doesn't tell me what I would be voting for if I voted "yes" to the poll.
    An end to black market distribution of cannabis, don't fret over your options too much I don't think your vote will have any effect on policy.
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    fyi Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    An end to black market distribution of cannabis, don't fret over your options too much I don't think your vote will have any effect on policy.
    I've stated my position on pot in several forums now.

    "I would like to see mere possession de-criminalized,... you having a bail of pot in your trunk affects me no more than you having a trunk full of straw for a pet goat... I would like to see the prisons emptied of those arrested for mere possession and the space made available for those who abuse their freedoms by endangering others. So, I would support more severe punishments for those who drive while high or cause other public disturbances, put people in danger, etc."

    But for those who think legalizing pot will give a punk ass drug dealer to quit selling on the streets and take up a job working a drive through somewhere? Get real,... any punk making that kind of money doing what he does is just going to move on to another product, then another and another.

    It's as much a cultural thing as it is anything else.

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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by angrybeaver View Post
    What are you blathering on about?
    Are you really saying that a weaker concentration of a drug is more dangerous than a stronger concentration?
    This is idiotic.
    NO I said: "low THC marijuana is arguably MORE dangerous in that you have to smoke more of it to get the same effect."

    A spliff which is strong enough to chill you out is better than one that is strong enough to knock you out.
    It doesnt follow that you would smoke spliffs until you get knocked out ,does it?
    a person will smoke as much as it take to get the desired effect. If the desired effect is to get knocked out then they will smoke more until they do get knocked out.

    concentration has no bearing

    As for the absinthe I have read that wormwood has similar effects as thc .
    Wrong or right the argument stands.[/quote]

    Here read some more, we will go with ease and convenience from a basic source:

    Based on studies that looked only at molecular shape, for many years thujone was thought to act similarly to THC on the cannabinoid receptors. Today this is known to be false because studies have shown that thujone does not activate these receptors. Thujone is a GABA receptor antagonist. By inhibiting GABA receptor activation neurons may fire more easily which can cause muscle spasms and convulsions
    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thujone]Thujone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]



    it is not the same, nor are the effects the same.

    You havent got a leg to stand on.
    Than I will confidently sit on the merits of my position.


    You make toke until you are wasted...maybe you are now.
    resorting to irrelevant personal swipes already?

    Have not been for years, a desire to use does not weigh into my stance on prohibition in any way shape or form.
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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    I've stated my position on pot in several forums now.

    "I would like to see mere possession de-criminalized,... you having a bail of pot in your trunk affects me no more than you having a trunk full of straw for a pet goat... I would like to see the prisons emptied of those arrested for mere possession and the space made available for those who abuse their freedoms by endangering others. So, I would support more severe punishments for those who drive while high or cause other public disturbances, put people in danger, etc."

    But for those who think legalizing pot will give a punk ass drug dealer to quit selling on the streets and take up a job working a drive through somewhere? Get real,... any punk making that kind of money doing what he does is just going to move on to another product, then another and another.

    It's as much a cultural thing as it is anything else.
    I agree with some of this, but for purpose of this discussion (legalizing marijuana only) the other products the punk will move on to have an already defined market share, and an already defined distribution network, there will be less money, and less incentive to enter the black market all around.

    legalizing marijuana will not create a demand for heroin or cocaine that is not already there, and is not already satisfied.
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    fyi Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    I agree with some of this, but for purpose of this discussion (legalizing marijuana only) the other products the punk will move on to have an already defined market share, and an already defined distribution network, there will be less money, and less incentive to enter the market all around.

    legalizing marijuana will not create a demand for heroin or cocaine that is not already there, and is not already satisfied.
    I have some first hand experiences that lead me to conclude that you are completely wrong about that.

    I seen the 'gateway' aspect up close and personal on more than one occasion.

    In my opinion, You do your side a dis-service by denying or ignoring it.

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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    All we need is another rapist runnin' around on viagra and pot!







    That shows how little you know about the subject of pot or sex.

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