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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    And just who the hell are you? You going to come to my house and take the booze out of my fridge? You going to come over and take the weed out of my pocket? If you're not willing to do something yourself then you shouldn't be asking the government to do it for you. Keep you BS morality to yourself, please.
    Knowing full well there's no support for it. He rather enforces his morality on others. It's immoral.

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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by roderic View Post
    Nope, I purposefully excluded this misinterpretation of my argument. It's right there in the text you quoted;
    "That's not a sufficient reason on its own, but it adds ..."
    Can you back this claim up, I have not read about this.
    How large and significant is the group of people for whom mental health problems are a consequence of pot-smoking?
    BBC NEWS | Health | Cannabis link to depression

    THE MEDICAL DANGERS OF MARIJUANA USE

    Marijuana - InfoFacts - NIDA

    Schizophrenia.com - Marijuana Cannabis and Schizophrenia


    These articles seem pretty even handed. As I stated,it is the high thc cannabis that imo is a problem but just how many people need to be at risk to deny you your spliff?

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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    So what? Who are you to stop me from smoking marijuana? If I want to take the risk it should be my choice.
    The negative externalities are the problem, it's not a risk which only affects the individual user.

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    Nobody gets schizophrenia from using marijuana. Please stop making absurd claims.
    Well, not directly, but there are studies which show a largely increased risk, mainly for adults who were heavy pot-smokers during adolescence. And psychedelics including marijuana can trigger a latent psychosis.
    But from my understanding these are marginal occurrences. I'd like to see some material from those who keep bringing this up as to how significant this is.
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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by roderic View Post
    So, you mean to say use in public should be prohibited?
    I can go along with this, and of course the same restrictions concerning driving, handling machinery etc. as with alcohol should apply.

    The risk and danger is there, whether it's legal or not, one cannot search everybody who enters a bar.
    The manufacturer's response to this is that the original brand has a strong colouring agent and will turn a drink blue, it's the illegally produced stuff which is of concern.
    Laws pertaining to search and seizure are well established and I don't think they need to be changed to make drugs legal.

    I didn't know about the coloring agent. That makes sense. Making it legal, then, would be the thing to do.
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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by roderic View Post
    The negative externalities are the problem, it's not a risk which only affects the individual user.
    What negative externalities? How am I hurting anyone by smoking marijuana?

    Well, not directly, but there are studies which show a largely increased risk, mainly for adults who were heavy pot-smokers during adolescence. And psychedelics including marijuana can trigger a latent psychosis.
    But from my understanding these are marginal occurrences. I'd like to see some material from those who keep bringing this up as to how significant this is.
    Marijuana can increase the risk of schizophrenia in people who were already predisposed towards the disorder, but it cannot cause it. If that were true, then several millions of Americans would be schizophrenics.

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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    What negative externalities? How am I hurting anyone by smoking marijuana?
    The main areas in which a portion of pot-smokers impact on society, a risk carried by all users:
    social and health-care costs, loss of productivity

    To cite the con-side of the argument:
    "Smoked marijuana damages the brain, heart, lungs, and immune system. It impairs learning and interferes with memory, perception, and judgment. Smoked marijuana contains cancer-causing compounds and has been implicated in a high percentage of automobile crashes and workplace accidents. Marijuana-related visits to hospital emergency rooms have tripled since 1990. Marijuana is also associated with gateway behavior leading to more extensive drug use. This phenomenon poses serious concerns given the significant increase in marijuana use by teenagers.
    ~ Office of National Drug Control Policy, 2000"
    While this sounds worse than I think it is, it can not be entirely dismissed.
    Marijuana can increase the risk of schizophrenia in people who were already predisposed towards the disorder, but it cannot cause it. If that were true, then several millions of Americans would be schizophrenics.
    Well, it's not clear if and how much it is causative for adolescents who use heavily in their formative years.
    It does not follow that millions would be schizophrenic if pot can indeed be more than just a trigger.
    As I said, I consider it to be a marginal phenomenon, but one can not dismiss it. Age restriction is a must when considering legalising.
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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by angrybeaver View Post
    You have a point but making it legal because some people are going to do it anyway is not really a reason to legitimise it
    .If legitimising pot brings about a huge rise in mental illness then your argument falls apart. It is known that pot exacerbates depression and makes people delusional if taken in extreme.
    Alchohol doing the same is no reason legalise another dangerous drug.
    I dont know about the USA but in Europe we have all but made tobacco illegal to be smoked in public places because it is dangerous drug.
    Yeah, but the governments still sanction it for sell. Tobacco should be banned but the governments of Yurp and the rest of the world are making tons of money on t tobacco, the most dangerous drug in the world. It's even more addictive than hard narcotics.

    It 's legality is as hypocritical as the bloddy English's Opium War against China.

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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    You're all just a bunch of tree-huggin', pot smokin', free-lovin', draft card burnin' hippies!

    That wacky tobaccy has done went and poisoned your mind.

    Why do you think they call it dope? It will make your babies come out naked and toothless. That's why!

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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Erection drugs (viagra) are readily available. Rapists love them. Yet, they are legal and pot is not. Life is unfair.

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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Erection drugs (viagra) are readily available. Rapists love them. Yet, they are legal and pot is not. Life is unfair.
    All we need is another rapist runnin' around on viagra and pot!








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