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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    wow.

    People are seriously discussing the relative merits of H20 vis a vis marijuana, and they're not doing it right.


    Want to compare the two?

    Have one group smoke a joint, measure the effects, have the other group inhale the water.

    Then have a group drink the water and another group ingest the marijuana, measure the results.

    I suspect the people inhaling the water will show the worst impacts.

    Ultimately, the whole argument is pointless.

    People can't live without water, and they can't drink Lake Huron.

    People do just fine totally abstaining from marijuana.

    None of that is important.

    What is important is the following question:

    What right does anyone have regulating the substances an adult is willing to place in his body?

    Medical effects be damned, the hophead has as much right to destroy his one and only body with heroin as the pothead has to damage his body with marijuana as the sanctimonious regulating tee-totaller has sticking his head up his ass.
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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Diarrhea and vomiting don't just "happen". Diarrhea comes about typically due to health reasons, and as such AGAIN you can not simply equate it to WATER alone being more dangerous than marijuana because it needs a SICK person to even have the POTENTIAL in this case of being dangerous. Similarly with vomiting, which would require someone to be ill to vomit that much OR to cause the action themselves...again, not just from drinking water.



    The level of excess sweating would be of such a great and huge proportion that one would have to have some kind of medical condition for such to happen, in which case, again, its not just the intake of water but a combination with a medical condition.



    Again, a highly unlikely scenario and again one which requires some other exterior factor to become dangerous. Someone could give you pot and put you in a car too.



    MENTAL CONDITION

    DIETS

    Oh look, again, words either indicating some kind of ILLNESS or the person doing some kind of other action that allows water to get to the point of being that dangerous.

    And again, even then, are at a RIDICULOUSLY low level of occurance



    .....

    Okay, thanks, yeah...you're not attempting serious discussion here at all if you're pulling out your trump card is that you're going to pull out water killing you in ways that have NOTHING TO DO WITH INGESTION



    for the love of christ. People like you and Liberal are as much to blame for this not being legal as those that buy into the myths, because its ridiculous, over the top, pathetically ignorant and stupid arguments like this that cause the average person that has no dog in this fight to look at it and go "haha, stupid potheads, they just want to get high"
    You really should chill out a little bit, my brother. You could sure use a spliff.

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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
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    What is important is the following question:

    What right does anyone have regulating the substances an adult is willing to place in his body?

    Medical effects be damned, the hophead has as much right to destroy his one and only body with heroin as the pothead has to damage his body with marijuana as the sanctimonious regulating tee-totaller has sticking his head up his ass.
    I used to think it's a matter of individual rights, but the other side of the coin are negative externalities.
    Who's going to pick up the bill when somebody self-medicates for a depression, gets worse instead of better, loses their job and winds up in care, the tee-totaller who objected to it being legalised?
    What about the loss of productivity, it's hardly the sort of drug which makes one feel perky in the morning and ready to concentrate on a difficult task.
    What are the benefits the community derives from people smoking pot, do they make up for the costs?
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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by roderic View Post
    I used to think it's a matter of individual rights, but the other side of the coin are negative externalities.
    Who's going to pick up the bill when somebody self-medicates for a depression, gets worse instead of better, loses their job and winds up in care, the tee-totaller who objected to it being legalised?
    What about the loss of productivity, it's hardly the sort of drug which makes one feel perky in the morning and ready to concentrate on a difficult task.
    What are the benefits the community derives from people smoking pot, do they make up for the costs?
    This applies moreso to alcohol
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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Should it be legalized? Hell No! I've already been close enough to head on collisions by people under the influence. Why make it easy to get stoned? And don't give me the crap about there not being more people smoking if it's legal. When gambling was legalized in my state making access much easier, the rolls at Gambler's Anonymous skyrocketed. I've also seen people lay down a hundred dollars at a pop for scratch off tickets, but their kid has to go without a good pair of shoes.
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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Should it be legalized? Hell No! I've already been close enough to head on collisions by people under the influence. Why make it easy to get stoned? And don't give me the crap about there not being more people smoking if it's legal. When gambling was legalized in my state making access much easier the rolls at Gambler's Anonymous skyrocketed.
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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    It is easy to get high
    But why make it easier?

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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    The thing is, I really don't care how bad pot is for someone when disscussing whether to make it legal or not. It is no reason to make it illegal to produce and sell to adults. If it was illegal to sell you anything that stood a chance of killing you or ruining your life, then cars, gambling, alcohol, and engagement rings would be banned. The the cost in money and blood in the War on Drugs are far higher than the death toll of all illicit drugs combined in this country. Yes, pot may increase the chance of mental illness in those more predisposed to it. It might cause cancer. SO WHAT? Alcohol definately can give you cirrosis of the liver.
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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    This applies moreso to alcohol
    It could also relate to junk foods such as pickled herrings and foods containing too much salt. Um, um, salty, that's what campbell's soups are.

    Sodium is more dangerous than pot.

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    Re: Should marijuana be legalized?

    What it comes down to is what the government's role is. This argument can apply to any other dangerous activity, the most extreme being suicide. (That's if we assume marijuana is not good for health...and that debate is for debatehealth.com, or whatever, anyway.)

    Does the government have the right to say what is good for me? Well right now, most people would say yes. Seatbelts are mandated (in many states, not sure if it's in all states), suicide is illegal...Once you allow the government to regulate your life and say what is good for you, it's virtually impossible to draw an arbitrary line.

    The truth is, though, if CA legalizes it, they will make a crap-load of cash taxing it (black-market prices are always a hell of a lot higher than legal prices) and CA is in a massive pile of debt.
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