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Who's at fault?

is whaling wrong?


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What you feel & what is the law are two different things.....;)
A larger ship that is not in danger does not have the right to cause a collision under any circumstances....;)
If there were loss of life, the captain of the larger vessel would have neen charged with manslaughter at the very least.....;)
EDIT.....:roll:


That ship was in danger. It was under attack....by the little boat that steered under it's bows.

If I'm driving down the freeway in my van, and a dumb ass on a motorcycle continually veers in front of me trying to cause an accident and I finally fear for my family's safety, I'm perfectly justfied in steering to clip his tire with my bumper if that's what is takes to protect me.

A ship with a fouled propeller is at the mercy of wind and wave until the crew clears the obstruction. That means sending a diver over the side...which is unsafe in the open ocean...and this vessel was under attack, making that operation even less safe.

No, taking action to stop the terrorism from the Ady Gil was justified.
 
Terminating an abortionist saves possibly thousands of lives. This makes sense, until one starts to think. Those with poisoned brains cannot think.

It's no different than killing a mugger attacking a little old lady, unless that old lady voted for Obama.Are you serious or are you poisoned.??

Wrong.
Are the whales really endangered?
If so, the whalers are wrong.
Protesters do tend to get carried away, burning, looting, murdering millions.
Man should learn how to protest and governments should learn how to listen.
Have either of these occurred???
 
Did you see the pic?


If I saw that being aimed at my ship, I'd open fire. A clear threat


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Ships Collide In Antarctic Whaling Clash - CBS News

"The Institute of Cetacean Research, the non-profit organization that conducts the hunt, said the Ady Gil came "within collision distance" of the Nisshin Maru's bow and repeatedly dangled a rope in the water that could have entangled the ship's rudder and propeller.

The Ady Gil's crew lobbed small projectiles designed to release a foul smell, and the whalers responded by firing high-powered hoses to keep the Sea Shepherd vessels away, the institute said in a statement. "




clearly the Japanese ship was in the right to ram those assholes. To bad they didn't drown.

The Japanese ship was in the wrong (just like you) to deliberately ram the other vessel.....
Stinkbombs & ropes do not give them the right to deliberately ram a vessel, regardless of right of way....;)
 
That ship was in danger. It was under attack....by the little boat that steered under it's bows.

If I'm driving down the freeway in my van, and a dumb ass on a motorcycle continually veers in front of me trying to cause an accident and I finally fear for my family's safety, I'm perfectly justfied in steering to clip his tire with my bumper if that's what is takes to protect me.
A ship with a fouled propeller is at the mercy of wind and wave until the crew clears the obstruction. That means sending a diver over the side...which is unsafe in the open ocean...and this vessel was under attack, making that operation even less safe.

No, taking action to stop the terrorism from the Ady Gil was justified.

Wrong!.....You are able to pull to the side of the road & let him continue on.....;)
Give the above statement to the police after a traffic accident & you are going to jail, ni if's and's or but's.....:doh
 
The Japanese ship was in the wrong (just like you) to deliberately ram the other vessel.....
Stinkbombs & ropes do not give them the right to deliberately ram a vessel, regardless of right of way....;)




do you not see the weapon being pointing out of those jackasses trimaran.


What is the appropriate response to being attacked at sea including having your prop being fouled and weapons being pointed at your ship?




And paul watson that fat **** ain't no vegitarian. ;)
 
Yes, the operator of the smaller more agile craft is under legal obligation to avoid placing his vessel in position to collide with the larger vessel. That's as true in the open sea as it is in narrow navigable channels.

When I sail to Catalina, I don't dawdle in the shipping lanes. They're "open ocean", but the damn freighters:

a) Can't see me.
b) Aren't looking for me.
c) Won't know if they've hit me
d) Forget about the freighters, it will hurt.

All I can say about this Ady Gil crew is that if they're going to insist on starting fights, they can't expect any sympathy when they lose them. I'm not going to feel sorry for terrorists, ever.

Still doesn't excuse deliberate ramming, the Japanese captain will be found to be at fault, possibly charged with attemped murder....;)
 

do you not see the weapon being pointing out of those jackasses trimaran.



What is the appropriate response to being attacked at sea including having your prop being fouled and weapons being pointed at your ship?




And paul watson that fat **** ain't no vegitarian. ;)

Yes, I also see the Japanese firing their water cannon, even after the ramming.....:roll:
 
Partisan,


What is the appropriate response the Japanese ship should take, when another ship follows them and tries to prop foul and stink bomb them?
 
What is the appropriate response to being attacked at sea including having your prop being fouled and weapons being pointed at your ship?

My answer would be a harpoon missile up the ass. But hey, I really can't stand extremists.
 
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Partisan,


What is the appropriate response the Japanese ship should take, when another ship follows them and tries to prop foul and stink bomb them?

Power down as much as possible to still allow navigational ability, you would do minimal damage, (if any), when the hulls meet call the proper authorities....;)
 
Power down as much as possible to still allow navigational ability, you would do minimal damage, (if any), when the hulls meet call the proper authorities....;)




Uhm this solves nothing, your ship will be prop fouled, and your decks will be rendered inhabitable by the stink bombs.


You are in the antartic with no power now....



What did you solve?
 
Uhm this solves nothing, your ship will be prop fouled, and your decks will be rendered inhabitable by the stink bombs.

You are in the antartic with no power now....



What did you solve?

I guess if you like stink, they will be inhabitable.....:lol:

You solved not putting human life in immediate danger......
 
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If your prop is fouled, your crew is in immediate danger.



FAIL

'If' is a mighty big word....
What might have happened is quite different than what did happen...
I will stick with what did happen as opposed to what might have happened.....;)
Again, if they powered down, it wouldn't have happened......;)
 
'If' is a mighty big word....
What might have happened is quite different than what did happen...
I will stick with what did happen as opposed to what might have happened.....;)
Again, if they powered down, it wouldn't have happened......;)




So if I try shoot you in the head, and miss, we cool?


Are you this intellectually vapid or is this idiocy stemming from your racist nature? :lol:
 
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Hellh0und;1058474848]
So if I try shoot you in the head, and miss, we cool?
No, we are not, because your violent intent was directed right at me....;)

Are you this intellectually vapid or is this idiocy stemming from your racist nature? :lol:

Ah, the racist card is played.....FAIL!......:lol:
Please don't tell me you think I am siding with the tree huggers because the crew is Japanese.......:roll:
 
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Reverend_[QUOTE said:
Hellh0und;1058474848]
No, we are not, because your violent intent was directed right at me....;)



What's the difference with the violence directed at the japanese ship? FAIL


Ah, the racist card is played.....FAIL!......:lol:
Please don't tell me you think I am siding with the tree huggers because the crew is Japanese.......:roll:



Well racism, is the most logical explaination for the blatant idiocy of your argument. :shrug:
 
Can't believe a Japanese fishing boat would cause this much flak. The Japanese commercial fishing industry has always played fairly in our waters............................................;)
 
Ok bye. you no longer entertain the Greatness that is the Good Reverend. :shrug:
 
The fat whale d00d, is an incompetant pirate, who should be shot.


HE should also be held criminally liable for damages and injury....


they are attacking the japanese fleet, should they not defend themselves?

Whaling is illegal in most countries and those creatures are being wiped out of existence by Japan's greed.

The Japanese rammed the American vessel and they are responsible for the consequences.
 
Whaling is illegal in most countries and those creatures are being wiped out of existence by Japan's greed.

The Japanese rammed the American vessel and they are responsible for the consequences.



It was not an american vessel.

Furthermore the japanese ship was not the agressor.
 
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